Pet Bugs and Ranged Bug Coalesce Into Big SH Hate

[porkstar]

I get some hate messages in-game while playing the SH because they say the pet hits too hard. I agree it hits hard in T1 but I seem to remember pets always hitting really hard in T1. Do they hit harder in RoR T1 than they did in WAR T1?

Some players are extremely sensitive to the point of being mean and irrational whenever the subject of SH pets comes up. Is it really that OP? I think everyone is becoming very angry and frustrated at all the exploits and people using them. But it seems many think just the act of playing a SH is exploiting. What does everyone think?

[zabis]

I look out and see a wave of Engi's and SW's, so I say play on fine Squiggie.

[Kaitanaroyr]

Well squig pets atm are counted as a player on order side since they hit for a constant 400 damage most wouldn't have a problem with that if the pet didn't climb up walls,go through walls and under them. the shadow warrior can only auto attack through walls engi can auto attack and turret can hit through walls but they don't do as much damage.Playing a squiggy isn't exploiting as you can't really control what the pet does and pets never worked that well when war was up anyway just ignore the rage.

[Xanax]

Agree that some people are way too sensitive, and way too quick to accuse others of cheating. Also agree that squids hit way too hard. Pets were OP in T1 Live, but not one particular pet above all others. Comparatively, turrets and lions do crap damage.

Of course it's not cheating to play a SH. But if you get three or four of them in one SC, be mindful that Order might rage if they just keep chain casting squids.

[porkstar]

Well squig pets atm are counted as a player on order side since they hit for a constant 400 damage most wouldn't have a problem with that if the pet didn't climb up walls,go through walls and under them. the shadow warrior can only auto attack through walls engi can auto attack and turret can hit through walls but they don't do as much damage.Playing a squiggy isn't exploiting as you can't really control what the pet does and pets never worked that well when war was up anyway just ignore the rage.

I totally agree with the running through walls crap. It's annoying to me as well since the damn thing runs off every time I target something and I press the heel button several times just to get it started back to me. The pets give bonuses to ability range or crit% which is an integral part of SH DPS. If I could leash the pet just for those bonuses and have it do 1/2 dmg just to keep people from raging I could live with that. I've tried my hardest in scenarios and have never been able to match the pure DPS of SW or engies. I'm lucky to get half the damage as the SWs and always less dmg than the engies of comparable skill. Of course the engie dmg is a lot of fluff aoe and maybe thats the case with SW too. That's part of my confusion as well.

[porkstar]

Agree that some people are way too sensitive, and way too quick to accuse others of cheating. Also agree that squids hit way too hard. Pets were OP in T1 Live, but not one particular pet above all others. Comparatively, turrets and lions do crap damage.

Of course it's not cheating to play a SH. But if you get three or four of them in one SC, be mindful that Order might rage if they just keep chain casting squids.

I agree that T1 pets were always hitting way too hard in live. I also agree that chain casting squigs and then not putting ypurself out there is bad form and cowardly. Squids and lions were the worst. I was fortunate enough to fight a WL 1v1 in Gates SC tonight. We both had our pets out. I had to react to snare quickly and unfortunately snared the lion instead of the WL I and died. It was a good fight and the lion pet did roughly 500 dmg (including a 191 crit on the initial attack) in the roughly 8 second fight. It seems pretty comparable to my SH pet. Of course the WL has the distinct disadvantage of needing to be in melee range. I would love to test pet dmg with some people. Just PM me

[Aceboltz]

It's the same from the other faction : engies are abusing blunderbuss blast and turrest to aoe farm through walls (cough cough bombina cough cough). They are also worst in a way: while a SH can harrass one player and kill the ennemies one by one without entering the game; the engineers can do the same thing to a group of players maybe the whole ennemy troops all at once.
Hate rising is real when there is a player of this kind in the sc.

"pew pew I spam blunderbuss blast through solid stone walls so I win with no match and no game. As long as I don't get punished I can continue to do this wich means I'm a genius". Please try to recognise this kind of mentality in your own faction and in yourself if possible.

[tazdingo]

yeah i think with the trouble we're having with certain engis right now SHs don't really got much to worry about

[Azarael]

Are pets as good as Combustion yet?

[Karast]

The pets are bonkers all around the shop, it's not so much the damage as it is the shooting through stuff as people have said, but it's important to note that they are not very reliable at changing target either.

You have spotty control if any right now, and when they die it can be hard to get another one to spawn.


So there is a bw / sorc / whatever you want to kill, and your pet is perma locked on a tank or just bugged out doing nothing.

No sense getting angry at the players because the pets are just out of control anyway.

But knowingly shooting through walls intentionally is low, but people will do what they will to get kills.