Am I Doing Something Wrong?

[Angoro]

Since I returned to RoR maybe a week and a half ago, I've steadily gone from exuberance to a sense of tedium, hardly staying online for more than half an our at a time. The RvR, which is what draws most of us into Warhammer Online, was at first fun as it always had been, but gradually morphed into something I feel like I can only do on occasion. Now, it feels costly; a constant drain on my character's finances as I heal off debuffs (frequent, as I'm rank 22 and can easily be solo'd by nearly any 40 in oRvR) and fly from one zone to another, usually costing 20s each time I do so now that the Doomsday Event is in place. That isn't to mention the sense of uselessness as I plink at people with higher health pools and damage outputs, and the gruelingly slow pace of achieving ranks in oRvR. I often feel forced to go into PvE content, to grind away at PQs that I typically can't even complete by myself, with no one else around as far as they eye can see, all so I can actually afford to get that new mount for level 16 when I get this character there, or for the mount I will inevitably need at higher ranks so I'm not left behind by the Warband I'm rolling with, or so that I can actually pay for all the flights and healers I need to even participate. It feels like a chore that gets in the way of actually having fun in the game.

I'm not here to bitch about the game- even if it might seem like it. I'm really not. I played WAR during Live, and I registered years back, not long after I heard about this server, because I wanted to keep going. I really want to keep playing and enjoy this game, but I can't help but feel like there's something that I'm just not getting. Am I just beating my head against the wall doing things the hardest possible way and killing my own enthusiasm? The whole point of this post is so I might get suggestions or recommendations, or at the very least bring up some discussion that might be beneficial to myself or others or anyone really. To that end, I'll say that I play a Magus primarily, but I've been focusing a lot on a Zealot, because I'm hoping I don't feel so useless later on in higher Tiers, since I can rez people and try to keep the important ones alive.

[dansari]

It sounds like you're just suffering from being a new player. My suggestion: find some people to play with, see if there are any guilds you can join, etc. You can either level your magus up through pve to get some currency going or simply ask for a handout. If you played order I'd throw you some gold because for the vets, gold comes easy and often. Zealot is certainly useful in RVR, and because of the event you can jump right away into the action. I will say playing with people on voice comms makes the game much more enjoyable.

Best of luck!

Edit: what timezone are you in? If you're not EU feelsbadman. If you have the free time, definitely play on the weekends... you can jump on when EU is normally on and EU has a giant population. There is a much higher chance people are doing stuff you can join during EU time.. whether it be PQs, RVR, scenarios, etc.

[Collateral]

So it sounds your biggest problem is money. I don't think getting gold in this game is super hard. If you play in rvr and stick with a warband, just take those kill quests every time you can. I'm sure you will complete them a couple of times in the zone. And if you complete the ones for 3 gold, you will be in the plus, as I think you can't possibly die so much that you spend 3 gold on healing. Also, healing those debuffs is not super important. It's only a 3 minute debuff, so you can run around without getting killed again and it will go away (or if you don't want that, just wait it out). As for cost of flying, I don't know why you have to travel so much? It's not like the zones last 30 mins and then you have to fly to the next.

Concerning lvling, I'm afraid the situation is not the best right now for fast lvling. Power lvling was nerfed hard it's almost pointless to do it. But, you can always farm with people the same rank as your, or simply do it solo. You will also get gear which you can sell, so you will get a little profit. I would suggest doing scs if you want some faster leveling, since rvr tends to drag out sometimes.

[Angoro]

You can either level your magus up through pve to get some currency going or simply ask for a handout. If you played order I'd throw you some gold because for the vets, gold comes easy and often.!

Your words warm the cockles of my heart, good Umgi. Had I gone back to my Ironbreaker, things might be different, but Destruction has begun to grow on me. The other things you say weren't necessarily unthought of, I should mention. The major issue is that I guess I'm not the most social person in the world? I don't have any friends that play this game- at least not without hassling- and while I was in one guild they never really did much. The GM was rarely online and no one spoke when they were around.

So it sounds your biggest problem is money. I don't think getting gold in this game is super hard. If you play in rvr and stick with a warband, just take those kill quests every time you can. I'm sure you will complete them a couple of times in the zone. And if you complete the ones for 3 gold, you will be in the plus, as I think you can't possibly die so much that you spend 3 gold on healing. Also, healing those debuffs is not super important. It's only a 3 minute debuff, so you can run around without getting killed again and it will go away (or if you don't want that, just wait it out). As for cost of flying, I don't know why you have to travel so much? It's not like the zones last 30 mins and then you have to fly to the next.

I don't remember those quests giving much money at all. They also usually take a little bit, or at least they do in my experience. Maybe I just have awful luck with them. As for the "3g quests", I have no idea what you're talking about so I can't really comment there. Death debuffs sometimes last 3 minutes, sometimes it's 15, I not really 100% on how it works but it seems if you die, heal, then die once or twice again, it bumps up the time limit, and given that I'm already squishy as hell, I usually don't like gimping myself any more than necessary.

For flying, I'll use a hypothetical. Say I logged out in the Inevitable City. Maybe I was there dropping off some dyes, or seeing a renown trainer or something. I head back to Troll Country, which is 5s, but upon arriving I start thinking about the idea of grinding PvE content for another half hour and decide I would, at this moment, rather peel my kneecap off with my hobby knife than do that. So I post in /t4, see where the fighting is, and head over to a T3 or T4 zone, which runs me 20s. I die once or twice there, don't get rezed, and each time I use the healer it's what, 5s? Region locks ten minutes after I get there, and the WB heads into the next zone. 20s. Let's say in the 30-45 minutes I'm there I die four times without being rezed. If I was to use another flight path and keep running with them, I'm already at what, 90s? If I'm a low rank character, around 16-20, and I don't have much to start with because I've just been doing RvR, that seems a hell of a lot more expensive than it may otherwise look to someone that's got a few 40's and can afford to blow gold however they feel like.

[Collateral]

The 3 gold quests are in each middle t4 camp, and kills are only counted in those zones. Normal 25 kill quests in t4 zones give 75s iirc, and in lower tiers about 20-40s I think? The res sickness works like this: once you die and res you get a debuff which you can remove by paying. If you don't remove it however and you die again, the debuff will increase in duration, and the cost to remove will increase. I think the max timer is 15 minutes.

If you really need gold and are on destro, I can spare you some for sure. Just tell me your character name.

[dansari]

You get a 15min debuff for dying in pve. 3 mins for dying in rvr. It refreshes cooldown if you die again with the debuff active, but doesn't increase in time (only in severity). First death is 10% wounds, next is 20% (with 3min timer total), 30%, etc.

[Collateral]

Ah yes that's right. I never payed too much attention to it so I forgot. The timer in rvr stays the same but the debuff is what increases.

[bwdaWAR]

If you haven't done so already, pick up Cultivating+Apothecary. You can grow stuff while in RvR/PvP, or just semi-AFK where you only come back to refresh your plots every 3 minutes, and eventually it'll get you potions that you can sell for a fair amount of money (regardless of your character's rank). And make sure you have that Miracle Growth addon active.

[dansari]

Ah yes that's right. I never payed too much attention to it so I forgot. The timer in rvr stays the same but the debuff is what increases.

I'm a scrub and I die a lot, so I know

[Telperien]

Imho its too much hassle to run around and collect all those gold quests and turn them in. For me its much more efficient to spend one hour AoE farming animals at my lvl, butcher everything, then sell all backpack to vendor (drag and drop crafting items that u cant sell with right click). T4 AoE zealot can easly get 50-70g in hour. Thats lots of gold just for traveling, cure wound debuff etc. And you can freely spend your time for RvR/SC.