2H BO

[Nefarian78]

At the point where you start saying stuff like "opportunist burst" that just needs a a guard + healer and all that jazz

No offense, but why even bother? Just grab a proper mdps at that point for real and greater effectiveness

And here's the issue of 2h BOs. Which, i might add, isn't that big of a deal to get out of.

We basically are Tankier Mdps with a little more utility, but not enough to make a difference between sacrificing something to get something else and a complete loss. If my Arm Breaka proposal will ever be implemented (doesn't matter which solution, imo) one of the biggest issue of 2h BO will be solved. Aka SnB has everything and we have nothing (Ah, right we do have Da Big Un! kek)

There are other issues to be fixed, but at least we won't be in the trash-bin tier anymore.

[Collateral]

If you think you can get the 2h bo to the level of sm, don't even hope I would say. What the class needs is a core self defense buff imo. It could also apply to 2h only, meaning a self parry buff. So forget about tactics and gear, give the class a 25% parry buff for 5 seconds and all problems are solved.

[Oldschool]

SM is the best 2H Tank in the game. No other Tank will do this Damage cause of the Spirit Magic Damage a SM does.
I miss the Spirit Damage for the BG. The 2H Damage from BG isnt nice at all. A Darkelf without Magic damage seems to me a bit lacking lore.

[TenTonHammer]

SM is the best 2H Tank in the game. No other Tank will do this Damage cause of the Spirit Magic Damage a SM does.
I miss the Spirit Damage for the BG. The 2H Damage from BG isnt nice at all. A Darkelf without Magic damage seems to me a bit lacking lore.

2h Bg has it's own form of burst damage via hastened doom + crimson death combo removing 1200ish wounds + CDs own high tool tip dmg


Additionally and more importantly 2H Bg serves a purpose, you have a reason to go 2H


Going at what collateral said about parry buff, if such a thing were to be done I feel that tactic should replace gud with big choppin, i don't know about y'all but I'd take a 25% parry buff with a 2h requirement over the mediocre damage buff



But still I ask you, what purpose would that serve? What reason would their exist to 2H BO over SnB?

[Collateral]

There is no reason, and there would be no reason. It would just give you more survivability, and make those that play 2h not feel squishier than a mdps class. I can't think of anything you can do for 2h bo that wouldn't make snb broken. Increasing overall damage wouldn't work. Currently the dmg for both is pretty much the same. While I can't reach 2k crits (I think my biggest were close to 1k), I survive more to be able to deal more damage, or the same amount of dmg if I was 2h. You could maybe make certain skills like buffs/debuffs tied to 2h, to give it some specific utility. This is how most of 2h tanks work. You play them for specific roles. The 2h bo is only for flavour.

I don't have time to think about this now though.

[Acidic]

Hi
Some interesting posts.
2h is defintly a fun spec.
But still have no seen any greatly dissuade me from thinking that a surviability change is needed.
But also thought a bit and we have to see what happens to the two bo changes suggested before adding more suggestions which sort of try solve the same area in different ways.

[TenTonHammer]

If the outgoing hdbuff is what arm breaka I changed to then I don't think anything will be a ibex since Bg has a no cd version and debuffs more than 50% due to wp debuff

[Acidic]

Ah now I see the basis for what I was thinking (block covert to parry) is not appropriate. This can be done as suggested by using different set than conq set I somehow managed to completely forget the sc set. This then means the basis for my thinking is flawed. Dam I hate sc's but suppose if I want to go 2h I need to do a few more sc.

[Collateral]

Anni has a parry bonus as well (granted it's not a dps set), so you don't have to do scs at all. BL also has a parry bonus, but if you don't have 5p you will have to wait until it's back.