[question] Chopa and life in this server

[Asherdoom]

Hello!

I was tempted to make an alt char for fun and i decided chop. their armor looks nice to me and surely an orc is an orc!

but what about chop state in this server in terms of rvr? how are they? better or worse than marauder? i know melee dps are having hard time with all ranged spam here but this toon is to have some fun.
what an experienced chop could recommend to me? )in terms of gear, stats and rvr and spec)

thanks in advance.

[flatfoot1987]

Most of my choppa experience comes from playing one on live till rr7x, my local RoR choppa is just a fresh ruin geared guy but still.

I wouldn't recommend it unless you're playing with friends 80% of the time. Put mine on a shelf until (if?) something is done about armor stacking and rdps domination in T4. If you're on your own, you rarely reach your target in one piece.

Stacking WS doesn't seem to help a lot, even with 50 armor pen a ton of light-armored people seem to mitigate most damage anyway. Risk vs reward is way off for both choppas and slayers imo.

As for builds - I never ran a choppa without Furious Choppin' as the self heal seems to boost your survivability a lot. Heal debuff from the 1st tree is a no-brainer also.

I also suggest running m1 bubble and racial wounds tactic at most times - this stuff compensates being squishy.

P.S. Leveled a fresh marauder to see if it's any better - it is. Ranged pull, real medium armor, decent detaunt and emergency switch to monstro makes it way more playable.

[Asherdoom]

Most of my choppa experience comes from playing one on live till rr7x, my local RoR choppa is just a fresh ruin geared guy but still.

I wouldn't recommend it unless you're playing with friends 80% of the time. Put mine on a shelf until (if?) something is done about armor stacking and rdps domination in T4. If you're on your own, you rarely reach your target in one piece.

Stacking WS doesn't seem to help a lot, even with 50 armor pen a ton of light-armored people seem to mitigate most damage anyway. Risk vs reward is way off for both choppas and slayers imo.

As for builds - I never ran a choppa without Furious Choppin' as the self heal seems to boost your survivability a lot. Heal debuff from the 1st tree is a no-brainer also.

I also suggest running m1 bubble and racial wounds tactic at most times - this stuff compensates being squishy.

P.S. Leveled a fresh marauder to see if it's any better - it is. Ranged pull, real medium armor, decent detaunt and emergency switch to monstro makes it way more playable.

thanks for reply. got any screen concerning mara sets? chop ones are very nice looking. (yes i base my choice also on aesthetic parameter)

[flatfoot1987]

Well that's another story but I'm pretty obsessed with the looks also and I've been collecting lair stuff. Got these looks atm.

Spoiler:

[GodlessCrom]

Ah damn nice looks! Where did you those gauntlets for Mara?

[flatfoot1987]

Ah damn nice looks! Where did you those gauntlets for Mara?

Three options: influence in DE ch 19 and 21 OR Reaver lair (you can catch these at the auction also). I suggest picking ch21 for gloves as ch19 also has the shoulderpiece pictured here (also avalable from Helfried or Gnawbone lairs).

[GodlessCrom]

thanks man! you ever found any decent chest pieces for marauder that make you look like less of a Conan extra and more like youre wearing actual armor? I love me some Conan, but armor is cool too...

[TenTonHammer]

thanks man! you ever found any decent chest pieces for marauder that make you look like less of a Conan extra and more like youre wearing actual armor? I love me some Conan, but armor is cool too...

there were bugged chosen armor peices, they all got "fixed"

[Jaycub]

Choppa is kinda like a hyper carry in 6 mans.

You need mara for ranged lockdown, and debuffs. You need a perma guard because you are made of glass at times and are melee, you need 2 healers as well. Choppa in a group without mara just gets kited for **** days and then you feel worthless. Chopmaster does well enough if enemy zone kills are a good metric, but that's a full greenskin group with 2 puddles from shamans that offsets the lack of mara bit I would imagine (but its 2 shamans lol).

Has a spot in warbands for certain group comps, but again organized only play. You wont just join a pug warband and have the proper comp to take advantage of it.

Why not just play BO? You fit in virtually any group, it's an orc, and does decent damage. Just don't go 2h.

[TenTonHammer]

Choppa is kinda like a hyper carry in 6 mans.

You need mara for ranged lockdown, and debuffs. You need a perma guard because you are made of glass at times and are melee, you need 2 healers as well. Choppa in a group without mara just gets kited for **** days and then you feel worthless. Chopmaster does well enough if enemy zone kills are a good metric, but that's a full greenskin group with 2 puddles from shamans that offsets the lack of mara bit I would imagine (but its 2 shamans lol).

Has a spot in warbands for certain group comps, but again organized only play. You wont just join a pug warband and have the proper comp to take advantage of it.

Why not just play BO? You fit in virtually any group, it's an orc, and does decent damage. Just don't go 2h.

Its only a carry if you enable it soo much, its frustrating to play a glass cannon class that has to have pockets and armor debuff just to function....

If your going to make a class an inherent glass cannon they should be given some more autonomey....


may of the non pug warbands people ive talked to arnt really intrested in running more than 1-2 choppas at most as your really not good for much more than a walking 2min CD WW and a shitter version of magus rift, since choppa AoE is pretty dam terribad otherwise


Then you get **** on by rdps and need so much dam WS in this armor stacking meta