It certainly shouldn't take 30 minutes, but maybe an hour, hour and a half for the whole zone if you're making a consistent push? 7-10 minutes per door plus 7-10 minutes on lord after you already fought over the zone, ranked up your keep, spawned ram, moved siege, etc. Unfortunately keep takes are rare during NA unless defenders have 80 aao because the lord battle (20+ minutes) is a draining, one-sided fight after already battling through the zone.KikkL wrote:Maybe this is why NA times lack? We are a very instant gratification society. 30minutes is a long time! LolPenril wrote:Taking keeps was pretty difficult on live (talking about pre-1.4). Tanks walls actually worked, you could rank up the keep and lock postern doors (so mDPS couldn't bypass), and don't even get me started on flipping a zone. I don't know why some people expect to take the enemy keep/zone in like 30 minutes.
And if no one is around it should take 25minutes to lock a zone! ehe
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Quick question: Is there a way to repair these in game? Vendor repair buttons are grayed out.

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Dropped off a SM (surprise!) in pvp, so I thought it might have been one of these new repairable things. Oh well, thanks for answer.
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Last I checked, one person had a drop.Collateral wrote:Has anyone gotten one of these items yet?
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Damn. I hope you will leave them in the game for a while 

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Any news on Da Toughest changes?Penril wrote:If you guys were happy being AoE snare spam bots, good for you. Our goal is to give them some other tools as well, namely in Da Boss and Da Toughest trees.
(yeah, something is coming for Da Toughest too... in 2 weeks).
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DYG got given an additional 10 second Chop Fasta buff and swapped positions in Da Toughest tree with CHM.predathore wrote:Any news on Da Toughest changes?Penril wrote:If you guys were happy being AoE snare spam bots, good for you. Our goal is to give them some other tools as well, namely in Da Boss and Da Toughest trees.
(yeah, something is coming for Da Toughest too... in 2 weeks).
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The DYG changes came 1 week after that post, thought there'd be something coming 2 weeks after it but it was only BG/IB changes.DokB wrote:DYG got given an additional 10 second Chop Fasta buff and swapped positions in Da Toughest tree with CHM.predathore wrote:Any news on Da Toughest changes?Penril wrote:If you guys were happy being AoE snare spam bots, good for you. Our goal is to give them some other tools as well, namely in Da Boss and Da Toughest trees.
(yeah, something is coming for Da Toughest too... in 2 weeks).
There was a proposal/discussion about Da Toughest war bellow which didn't get declined and got some decent ideas so there might be a change in the future. There is also apparently a change in the works for Da Brawler tree as well.Spoiler:
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