Best players of original WAR

[Penril]

I think I must have played different servers / time zones to most of you, very few names i recognize.

Servers. The ones he mentioned were from KN, the ones you mentioned were from Volkmar/Gorfang/Badlands.

I agree with most of your list.

[Mez]

I did forget what happened to him tho lol. I think he got bored of the game.

After Hallu went MIA and Arsenal began to deteriorate for lack of alarm clock zone dom flips to force early morning city pushes when no one was on so Hallu could get geared out, having switched to destro out of boredom Vohannyn (Karbard) and Grolni (Cyvik) and I decided to leech what was left of Arsenal and the rest of the pvp guilds who all had 1-3 good players left but not enough for an active group. The Brigata Di Morte guys who became Oblit on the great phoenix throne merge to Gorfang, and ultimately joined Irony (after I was booted) were tired of being 2nd class citizens to the core group and decided to come over to destro as well. We formed up an active nightly 12-man bomb group called Paradox and destroyed Blitz every single night in RvR and scenarios for the better part of 3 weeks, to the point Raylondo wouldn't even talk in forums any more, and popped skellie and mirage banners on us in Searpant's passage on cooldown, just to get chased back to the warcamp regardless. Still in nub gear and farming Tovl nightly Ray invaded as usual and got his ass beat 2-3x in a row, one huge loss coming on boss 5 after Shuguard punted him out the window 400 feet against the backwall and we wiped his crew who were powerless without Ray using mods to call targets with Calling/Nerfbutton robots fail.

Demoralized the rolled an AM the next day and we saw him solo queueing scenarios and occasionally grouped but never with a full 6 man as Blitz seemed to have died. He never played his knight again.

WIth no Majorin zerg to harrass, and no Hallu or Aldel to forum rage against, it appears he lead a small band of people to Europe to presumably regain some sense of control over a deflated guild.

I could go on about my side of history, which is not up for debate, and I thoroughly enjoy perceiving, but I'll leave it here, because only probably about 2 of you know what i'm talking about or care. Hi.

[Mez]

BTW, the above post should be read in the accent of Dr. Evil talking about his childhood.

Very well, where should I begin? My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low-grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a fifteen-year-old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink, he would make outrageous claims, like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. A sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. If I was insolent, I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds. Pretty standard, really. At the age of twelve I received my first scribe. At the age of fifteen, a Zoroastrian named Vilma ritualistically shaved my testicles. There really is nothing like a shaven gumdrop. At the age of eighteen, I went off to evil medical school. From there...

[Vampire]

BTW, the above post should be read in the accent of Dr. Evil talking about his childhood.

Very well, where should I begin? My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low-grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a fifteen-year-old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink, he would make outrageous claims, like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. A sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. If I was insolent, I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds. Pretty standard, really. At the age of twelve I received my first scribe. At the age of fifteen, a Zoroastrian named Vilma ritualistically shaved my testicles. There really is nothing like a shaven gumdrop. At the age of eighteen, I went off to evil medical school. From there...

Ok

[Tklees]

I think I must have played different servers / time zones to most of you, very few names i recognize.

Spent the last couple of years solo ing in t3 or playing in t4 scs (internet connection couldnt take t4) so that may be a reason. Names that stood out form me were people i wanted to be able to play like or who ran me over like a speed bump rather than friends or people i liked..

SWs: thorindor and Larrison (special mention to Minimize from UMA)
Pre 100 these guys could turn an SC around just by joining, and this was before the SW buff patch that took away VoN dependancies and added self punt.

WP's: Herbey and Drunkenheals
Herbey was the first to ding 100 on Volk, then the bitching started ("just good from gear" yadda yadda) but the guy got to 100 so fast by duo'ing, soloing and grouping, played heals and dps and rocked at both. Orz is memorable too i guess.

WL: Nolaloth I think his name was, solo'ed a lot and tore people up in the same way other WL's did as point of a 6 man. there were a couple of others but they usually had groups.

WH: Tklees . purely for a couple of cities where order got rolled but after stage 1 started no destro would get beyond the circle to join the battle all late comers died.I think he was duoing with another WH (Magicclown?) but forgot that name. Highlet also, but usually only saw him in a premade.

BW: forgot the guys name, but was the leader of UMA. Yes was in a 4 or 5 man most of time but was an absolute beast.

AM: this is tough, because i like solo DPS AMs, and in t4 thats not as much fun as you would think. The one that stands out is Deathlazers.. but seeing as how many times he seemed to get banned its odd to choose him. Londol (forget the spelling) was crazy good to.

Slayer:.. Gorikor... seriously..just DB machine.

IB: Only one i recall from live game was Phantomdrake

RP: Dorkabin (from Guardianz) .. kept entire SCs teams alive as a solo healer. Changed how i would play to be much more agressive just seeing his name .

SM: Bladespawn.

6 man / premade : Myms and UMA. although UMA rarely played 6v6, more running lakes wb busting

Destro is pretty easy, guilds pretty much hoovered up most of the best players..

Most of the memorable players for me were in Malice (no idea if they hacked duped etc but like to give benefit of doubt).

Any Squiggy or SH in crits n giggles...

Others who's names stuck with me were..

vietnam (sorc),

there is a WE who plays RoR called vodnova or something like that back on badlands,

and for mara - KSS...just about the only player i would ever actively avoid when soloing /bow

thanks for the mention bank! the other WH was most likely magicclown and the only names id put out there are Xiphy for WP and IB and Zarbix for BW, the name of the UMA BW was Oredayahoho or something btw.

[Kharnamatic]

Please do not celebrate these "best players." It's because of these players and the fact that Warhammer had no effective matchmaking that WAR died. At the end of WAR's life, full premades of these players had the lakes and scenarios in full lockdown. Casuals that wanted to queue solo or pvp for fun weren't able to, as they would just end up getting roflstomped by geared and coordinated parties, discouraging them from logging in and eventually unsubbing.

Case in point: let's examine the last year of Badlands. At that time order was being completely dominated by a group of now legendary dps zealots. I am talking of the reign of forsseti, myndfreak, cyvik and others whose names now elude me since the bioware forums have been taken down. With their extraordinary aoe dps, aoe heal debuffs and ability to switch to heal mode at any point to be able to flex under pressure and be nigh unkillable, dps zealots were completely broken.

In rvr, guarded dps zealots with the odd magus to pull had a decisive advantage in lakes. The extreme aoe dps of these groups would kill any unguarded or solo rvrer in gcds. Fearful of dying, order's casual players had to stand back and many times you would see slayers just throwing axes from the backlines. Stripped of their pubbie support, while destro's pubbies were able to attack without fear, order had a massive numerical disadvantage and would always be camped at their spawn.

Dps zealots were even more ridiculous in scenarios. They had this destro-exclusive (runepriests didn't have it) ability that caused a continuous pbaoe knockback + virtually unhealable high aoe damage channel that (with tactics) applied an aoe heal debuff. With proper positioning, which destro's premades were consistently capable of, a two guarded dps zealot premade could set it up so that order that were punted by the first zealot's channel were punted into the second zealot's channel. Order was knocked back and forth between zealots, unable to cast heals, unable to fight back. All they could do was die - in droves. Scenarios were pathetic in the end. Order would often give up and remain in their spawn from the start (where they were safe from the zealot's pbaoe inside their guards), and eventually scenarios stopped popping as order gave up altogether.

Order could came up with no counter to the dps zealot comp. From pubbies to self-declared "top-tier" guilds, order players were stomped on, camped, destroyed, raped. Order either quit the game, like myrmidons a "top tier" guild that was shamefully showed up by dps healers and as a pro gaming team (they do the gw2 pro circuit now, look up ostricheggs, one of their players who won some competition) had to quit to save face, or switched to destro, in the case of such players as tankbeardz, arthem and liandel. The case of the player tankbeardz is especially galling. A kotbs and crucial member of a competitive order guild, who should have represented order and kept them in the fight, he grew tired of being farmed by dps zealots to play a magus by the name of riftbeardz. As a magus he became the buttboy for dps zealots, his sole job: rifting order into the aoe dps of the zealots for them to om nom on . What an ignoble thing to be remembered for! From intrepid solo tank and dependable guard to riftbot.

The only order player of any note was llondo, who like the also legendary xylophone before him, was a dps archmage. With the archmage's ap steal, the dps am was on the few comps that could shut down a zealot's channel and dps and swing the battle in order's favor. Still he was a drop in an ocean of bad. Unsubbing in despair at being so utterly dominated, the lakes become almost devoid of order, with almost constant aao in their favor. Now without anybody to fight, destro unsubbed in turn out of boredom. Seeing the population figures, EA made the only decision it could: it shut down the game.

And that is how Badlands died. With a dps zealot bang. In the end, chaos prevailed and the heralds of the apocalypse: the zealots forsseti, myndfreak, cyvik and co. Your like will never be forgotten.

Even though as a chosen player I glory in our victory, I am still sad WAR was closed because of dps zealots. The devs could have just nerfed them a bit and the game would still be running today. I have not found a game like Warhammer since. I have tried WoW and have no idea why people play it and pay for the devs to make no content for years. I now mainly play World of Tanks. I encourage everybody to try Elder Scrolls Online when it goes Buy To Play next month. I played it for a month and the game is solid, the sub (to keep up multiple subs big no no) was too much for me though.

[wiscel]

Names that come to mind

Order:
Slayer - Zunig
White Lion - Yrai.
Which Hunter - Toyguns/Koplinsky
Kobs - no idea
Swordmaster - Shadowace
IB - Djolle
Sw - Manjakk
Bw - Nithogr
Engi - Pippu
Warrior Priest - Gibb
AM - Karmen/Telen
Runepriest - Moryx

Destro:
Choppa - Nitro
Marauder - Manjare
Witch Elf - Bitchka and me Mehlindy
Chosen - Kirk
Black Orc - Skallkrossarn
Black Guard - no idea
Sorc - Arcticblast
Squig Herder - no idea
Magus - no idea
DoK - no idea
Shammy - Ratan
Zealot - no idea

[Arslan]

Toothz the best SH in Iron Rock.

[Tesq]

I found as best player those who push their classes to the limits so here my (KN) list:

slayer: gotrèk, thagirem, ory, simbik
Kobs: synio, artisam, breakdown, djurja, stavox, kaowiec
dok: Nyuszica
WH: (hard to admit but) lolih
BW: belgara as playstile, molsine as damage, exoteremix between both
SW: limonius
IB: wooatan
Engi: piippu (hands down)
SM: eanarion
BG: camanis, termund
Zeal: pockethealerof
Choppa: necrophagos( half time afk but when he didn't, there were a lot of choppas)
mara: Drkst
Squig: yrenton
Chosen: no one as no one ever try to play chosen with out using his exploiting or made a good build, all chosen on KN on last times, go around with the so colled "3 spec" that was usable only by stack parry... you were a wall but in exchage of that they get shoot down in few sec if hit from behind while KD, get their parry ingored by slayer or play lolable 2h build that i most found funny in zergy situation where they could not even stay on front line and do their job, neither "me" as i always play def tank with few support. Also even 3 auras support chosen fail to do their job due to try being like a kobs. Also still found hilarious those chosen that suggested that cripple strike stack with challenge

I forgot the most btw sy for that

Regard telenn post it' is true lot of these slayer hit rr 100 first in server but they pass by as best due to playstyle.
Gotrèk had a 2h build and you know 1/1000 play that, ye he had a party that play around him, but that build was fantstic
Ory was in the second wave of rr100 and considering it was the guild master ( play + speak/guide ) that's a lot
Simbik thagirem they both play aoe but i found them really good

[Ilasar]

For norn i have two players-Crionic and Hydrany.