Patch Notes 16/12/2017

[Haojin]

I'm not sure double initiative debuff applied in this patch or the previous one but just giving an example for everyone.

272 initiative - double debuff - %30 incoming crit chance

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214 initiative - double debuff - %99.9 incoming crit chance

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185 initiative - double debuff - %117.7 incoming crit chance

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Thanks for doing the tests, really appreciate it. I do still think its too much. Fun to play with atm but... Yea.

Still happy SW tweaks are happening

Funnily enough it was on WAR live and hoardes of screaming super melee SWs were not shredding the lakes go figure, also was on ROR live for a week and no one noticed.

well, wasn't it like that in the past ?

it was stacking before, it didn't stack like 1 month or so and now for 1-2 week it stacks again iirc.

people not crying about it cause there is no official info on the patchnotes, that means only certain sw's know/using it which not gonna make a massive whine fest.

[Arteker616]

So destro now have more crit than Order. Something Order's crit rate was heavily nerfed for. Destro also get to keep their free morale pumps. What are Order getting?

Considering the best morale pumper in game is on order with AM i think u are kinda hillarious or dont know about the nerfs made to destro morale pumps ,

[alusnova]

So they changed the WL guardian spec to be a support of your pet now they nerf the KD to 2 sec ....so the whole point of the Guardian tree is to make the pet strong at the sacrifice of your own dps but you are also nerfing the actual pet ability on a longer CD too.


Seems they want us to forget guardian tree altogether and go axe/hunt.

[Foomy44]

So they changed the WL guardian spec to be a support of your pet now they nerf the KD to 2 sec ....so the whole point of the Guardian tree is to make the pet strong at the sacrifice of your own dps but you are also nerfing the actual pet ability on a longer CD too.


Seems they want us to forget guardian tree altogether and go axe/hunt.

Yes I'm sure the devs spent all the time reworking guardian tree because they don't want people playing it. Have you actually tried guardian? It is stupid strong in small scale, really doubt 1 second less knockdown on 1 target every 30 seconds is gonna suddenly make the spec unviable.

That said I will be retiring Catnap momentarily to gear up my Choosen, been waiting so long for 2h spec to be worth taking over other tanks, hope these changes do the trick.

[Haojin]

Funnily enough it was on WAR live and hoardes of screaming super melee SWs were not shredding the lakes go figure, also was on ROR live for a week and no one noticed.

well, wasn't it like that in the past ?

it was stacking before, it didn't stack like 1 month or so and now for 1-2 week it stacks again iirc.

people not crying about it cause there is no official info on the patchnotes, that means only certain sw's know/using it which not gonna make a massive whine fest.

Right, I forgot people only cry about whats on patch notes not actual effects and use, speaking of, not in these patch notes so not for discussion here, feel free to make a balance proposal.

thanks for the answer.

[dansari]

So destro now have more crit than Order. Something Order's crit rate was heavily nerfed for. Destro also get to keep their free morale pumps. What are Order getting?

Considering the best morale pumper in game is on order with AM i think u are kinda hillarious or dont know about the nerfs made to destro morale pumps ,

Ah yes, I remember now how one AM pumped up all the tanks in my warband, with their 2s cast single target heal, so they could all drop raze in the beginning stages of a fight.

[Njaguar]

Every single patch there is someone complaining... Glad to see that people appreciate the free time people are investing in this game... Drop me a GM tag and i will swing the hammer on this late evening. Once again, nice patch!

[GodlessCrom]

Pretty sure I saw Hao himself admit AM morale pump is a red herring, and impractical in most situations. Though his posts are so troll heavy its hard to tell where the troll begins and the serious ends.

[Haojin]

Pretty sure I saw Hao himself admit AM morale pump is a red herring, and impractical in most situations. Though his posts are so troll heavy its hard to tell where the troll begins and the serious ends.

what are you talking about ? did i say something about AM in this thread ?

[wargrimnir]

Pretty sure I saw Hao himself admit AM morale pump is a red herring, and impractical in most situations. Though his posts are so troll heavy its hard to tell where the troll begins and the serious ends.

what are you talking about ? did i say something about AM in this thread ?

I did like the devastating blows mara video from when the AOE cap was super weird.