Liniments

[rmpl]

We got 4 seeds in one wing.

Which get you 20 fragments -->40 pots

Wait, you can't reap the fragments for seeds?

[zumos2]

It has nothing to do with cultivating then, basically just farming gunbad in a different way for liniments.

[Gerv]

It has nothing to do with cultivating then, basically just farming gunbad in a different way for liniments.

Seems that way initially, looking forward to testing out the butchering code, maybe that will be more rewarding.

[delcon]

If the seeds disappear what’s the point of them it does not fit with the crafting skill ,
should just leave them as butcher items ,
Not a good enough reason to play gunbad ,

[Moosie]

My opinion,

Not having the indestructible blue seeds like LIVE had, is a mistake in my opinion. All it does is bring an unnecessary annoyance to the game by forcing you to craft an extra billion hours just to make basic pots... the game should be about fighting, not crafting 60+ hours to a week help provide to your guild. There's no "advantage" to the game itself by making this "hard". It's about as logical as "re-spec'ng" requiring gold. What's that about? Why isn't that free?

Now the liniments are the same way... but apparently even worse because your forced to take time out of RVR (which this game is all about) so you can farm a PVE dungeon - over and over - so you can get that equalizing advantage in RVR.

All this does is cause further separation between the common average players, and those organized elite guilds - because you know darn well the elite guilds are going to form far more experienced and ritual groups dedicated to farming those seeds to maintain any statistical advantage they can.

The balancing issues with the Lion and the Shadow Warrior have been frustrating enough, along with the across-the-board nerfing of RR gain in zones and scenarios.... but this choice of seed provisioning is very, very disheartening and is a large reason my of my friends have faded away from this game hard the last few weeks.

Why can't this game just be about the fighting? It's an RVR game....

[qwerty113]

Just make this dumn liniments be crafted as cultivation or salvage, nothing will broken if so

They are crafted by cultivation or butchery, you dont get easy drop permanent seeds, have a problem with it, feel free to make your own crafting system on your own server. - Torque

[zumos2]

What makes you think all seeds do that?

So different to live liniment seeds disapear now if you grow them. Is this intended or just a bug?

Intended

No one mentioned permanent seeds, but you expect us to know you did put those in but at lower droprates?

Well to gain more complete information ... Can these permanent seeds only drop on Gunbad bosses?

[Scrilian]

It's a bit disappointing to not to have permanent seeds, but oh well. Looked forward to farming those in Gunbad, maybe some other time then, sigh.

[dansari]

Not sure why everyone is making a big deal out of it.. they won't drop necessarily often enough to be a very high contributing factor in rvr. If anything it'll be something that a few people have every now and then. I farmed for maybe 2 hours today and got a total of ~12 seeds. Contrast that with the ~140 armor mats I was able to obtain during that time. At this point, I'm not sure it's worth making a fuss over if it's not exactly what you expected because things change every week.

[Drbus]

Spoiler:

My opinion,

Not having the indestructible blue seeds like LIVE had, is a mistake in my opinion. All it does is bring an unnecessary annoyance to the game by forcing you to craft an extra billion hours just to make basic pots... the game should be about fighting, not crafting 60+ hours to a week help provide to your guild. There's no "advantage" to the game itself by making this "hard". It's about as logical as "re-spec'ng" requiring gold. What's that about? Why isn't that free?

Now the liniments are the same way... but apparently even worse because your forced to take time out of RVR (which this game is all about) so you can farm a PVE dungeon - over and over - so you can get that equalizing advantage in RVR.

All this does is cause further separation between the common average players, and those organized elite guilds - because you know darn well the elite guilds are going to form far more experienced and ritual groups dedicated to farming those seeds to maintain any statistical advantage they can.

The balancing issues with the Lion and the Shadow Warrior have been frustrating enough, along with the across-the-board nerfing of RR gain in zones and scenarios.... but this choice of seed provisioning is very, very disheartening and is a large reason my of my friends have faded away from this game hard the last few weeks.

Why can't this game just be about the fighting? It's an RVR game....

The game is whatever you take out of it, stating "its an RvR game" doesnt make it so and it seems some people could fit in a whole lot more RvR if they whined a lot less about classes they have no experience on?

I would strongly advise staying on topic and not attempting to inject whine into other peoples threads, goes for everyone.

This sentence BLEW my mind. Especially when:
(This is taken from the ?About Tab)
2 - Why
The aim of this server is first of all to show that War-Emu works.
A lot of stuff is missing, but a lot of stuff works !

Moreover, the War-Emu team wanted to make his own private server in order to regroup the maximum of Warhammer Online players. We'll try to do our best to continue our good work, and let this server up to let Warhammer revive !
And don't forget, in RvR, the more are there, the more fun there is ! Come and join us, invite your friends, family and even your grandma

Also where do you get off talking to people like how you do? How rude can you be?

Thought I was pretty clear about staying on topic, guess not, warning issued - Torque