Tesq wrote: Sat May 05, 2018 8:27 pm
theoddone wrote: Sat May 05, 2018 7:20 pm
Nice another full on therocrafting proposal without any regard of what actually happens ingame.
Going to monstro stance means giving up damage for survivability. If you want utility in monstro stance you have to spec for it. You also have to be in range of something to proc it. You limit your detaunt options by spamming aoe to proc it. It has always been weak against torment and magic dmg.
The real question is:
Is gift of monstrosity overperforming in group settings?
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It's not theoey craft , given you use it in orvr and not in sc it is one of the more overperformming self buff in game, yea wh ignore it then let' see how many things (classes) it counter.
Sw
Wl
Slayer
All these classes suffer in orvr right now dmg wise any wb would pick 7x bw and 1 engi if possible and is not a mystery why... one of the many reason is mara, to tell the true this change averange if you face good wb will not change anything, cus vs em it' not even relevant.... so even nerf this and allow some physic dps to be usefull will not change the average durability.
Because they are using bw which against isuseless( debuffing res aswell) so you take more dmg from a bw then a physic dps post nerf.. Look if more order physic do became a thing this is a buff of 10% to mara because as it stand now competitivly is go bw or go home.
Mostro paradox , nerf it will make it more usefull in comp orvr settings while nerf puggimg /solo gameplay.
Moreover mara dmg on mostro was buffed aswell (wrecking ball do 2x) and it' a very good party addition due support + sorc nerf made it even better.
sorry to burst ur comment abit tesq . but let me explain u some minor stuff.
These class can perform very well on wb . and they bring some unique stuff wich on other hand mara dont.
SW: sw still can buff his whole party with critic , and with lileath arrow spam with m2 it actualy has a very good aoe potential.
WL: with changes made to wl , wl doesnt need to rely on pet while on wb and still can be very though aoer thanks to changes on W axe.
Slayer : despite the nerfs to shatter limbs , a guarded slayer with a wb backing him up is one of the premier aoe class on order, thanks to his skills such rampage .
are you seriously considering bw as the premier aoe class on order atm with the disrupt chances and with a growing hold the line population .
As you commented sorc was nerfed and mara monstro was buffed, that was backedup back then because the inferiority of destru on aoe wb vs wb after the m4 nerfs , infernal wave nerfs, and chop fasta nerf.
ur proposal on my opinion doesnt take into account 6 man or organized wb play for marauder at all . Monstro mara has become a popular choice for soloers and puggers maras due to being thougheter to bringd own than other mdps but the same could be said about the wl . Because a montro mara dmg is weak, durable yes but his aoe dmg and ST is not that great deal unless u happen to have a 1vs1 . wich if i recall is not a measure to propose any kind of balance if im not mistaken.
I got a final question wich maybe theodone or other senior mara could answer me, is still monstro proc being able to be seered shattered?.because if so i dont see any real problem with it , and if its not if u wanna make a more balanced proposiion imo should be it should be able to be shattered sever by other class .
