TUP raid order BW PoV

[Khrum]

[youtube]https://youtu.be/xVkShDYvmpU[/youtube]

music bit slow but was in render when started think about change, any way enjoy

[Aurandilaz]

very nice, very hot

damned Serond stealing the kills

[Harkonen]

Why does TUP go order when Phalanx does? Is the des zerg that real?

[Wam]

Why does TUP go order when Phalanx does? Is the des zerg that real?

People will think what they want but here you go...

because we have dominated on destro for a year... nothing left for us to prove on destro... lack of progression but we still play from time to time... all the kills we get are for fun all the medals thousands are wasted for long time

lack of regular competition...

Order needed help, destro zerging too hard... more challenge when we have less renown and gear, also new style to learn and new people to kill

Why play 50% of game when 100% is option and better suited

Tired of pvesnoozefest and order logging off after 10 minutes during primetime if we have a strong setup and the stomp is real at a key timing (has happend too many times on raids)

IF TUP/PF/NRM/PNP/Ocara/PUGS was in a zone its generally too much for order / over kill / fighting for scraps

Phalanx went to order late last year... we went to order in extreme circumstances to balance the game to provide more fights/actions with our lol lowbies multiple times also but only recently more conssistant...

Destro pugs are generally also better to fight

So balance wise its a bit more even if we are more order (we are still lowbie and growing so will be a couple month before we should be where I want although we can kinda do some nice things if setup is solid enough)

People can keep talking and crying about us... your problem

[Harkonen]

I did not mean anything negative by my statement, got the feeling you thought i did considering your response. Hence my genuine question; is the destro zerg that real that is simply takes all the fun away for you hence you switch over to the underdog even whilst phalanx is on order aswell?

Id say the more flexible organized warband guilds are active on the server the better! Allows for way better gameplay!

[Wam]

I did not mean anything negative by my statement, got the feeling you thought i did considering your response. Hence my genuine question; is the destro zerg that real that is simply takes all the fun away for you hence you switch over to the underdog even whilst phalanx is on order aswell?

Id say the more flexible organized warband guilds are active on the server the better! Allows for way better gameplay!

RvR can be pretty random... but a few months ago Destro just become too dominant = less action / less fun etc (generally)

2 days in a row, raid was over in 10 minutes... from a competition point of view... AAO had swung massively because we wiped order at keep (40 aao for dest to 80 aao against order)... and many other raids ended earlier due to enemy AAO / lack of fights (so far on order this is less of a problem ) we was / always in tricky as AAO police because we sometimes tilt it in one side's favour too much with changing... its why we don't change all the time

Phalanx numbers and days vary? have seen Invasion sometimes but not as much as before lately... CNTK are half strength numbers wise compared to how they use to be, Bitterstones is maybe similar hard to expect their turnout... Diogenes maybe 2fg instead of 3fg?

Order pugs are pretty random

We are semi aware of externally what other guilds do... but focus is always on self (we are even tempted to fight ourselves if no action to be had )

If we have a strong destro wb... and order have AAO it becomes boring AF fighting over scraps with so much adds ... (we don't need medals, renown, or gear so much on destro... so what is left is fights and if there are no "decent" fights... or just ruined fights then why raid all the time like that. So switching to underdog makes sense, we even inform some people if we will switch just so its not zzzzzz bang on lord fest without any pvp.

Like last week we was close to swapping sides from destro / calling raid early... before Bitterstone/Diogenes/Phalanx showed up in High pass... as I think there was only some cntk / some pugs and alot of destro

[ragafury]

I did not mean anything negative by my statement, got the feeling you thought i did considering your response. Hence my genuine question; is the destro zerg that real that is simply takes all the fun away for you hence you switch over to the underdog even whilst phalanx is on order aswell?

making decions on what other guilds will probably do or not do is simpy not possible.
2 guilds are somewhat reliable from my PoV in terms of setups and SoF overall.
NRM and CNTK.

the rest is fully random.

we had also days were we had perfect setups and no opposition and we had days were we struggled to build a 4th party which makes sense vs multiple organisations.

we don't communicate much with any guild besides NRM which make an excellent sparing partner when we want to play XvX.

"zerg" was in that case a smallscale grp which than switched to destro. phalanx does there thing, we do ours.

If we would take into consideration what every guild / alliance in this game plans and how numbers are daily look we probably would need to split the wb and play a 12 man on each side or switch realm after every zone or don't play at all and we would probably need to rent an IBM comp to calculate all possible outcomes

Id say the more flexible organized warband guilds are active on the server the better! Allows for way better gameplay!

we like to be unforseeable, at some point we will be. (RR average is ~RR47 I think with very extremes, some guys <40 some guys >70; same goes for gear)

we don't owe destro anything, we don't owe order anything, we don't owe any other guild or alliance anything, and we don't owe the server overall something. in fact we played for a long time AAO and Keep Police for destro. and we still play destro too.

we are scott free, do as we like and play for our own enjoyment.

EDIT: Typos and stuff

[Acidic]

We did ZonePop on the zone around then, order had something like 28 BW out.

But strange people have comments on how others should play and what they should do for fun.
But it’s always fun to kill Wam

[Wam]

We did ZonePop on the zone around then, order had something like 28 BW out.

But strange people have comments on how others should play and what they should do for fun.
But it’s always fun to kill Wam

Makes a change from all the SW/WL/WH in pug wb's

and yes it's fun to die if we fight hard enough

[Aurandilaz]

We did ZonePop on the zone around then, order had something like 28 BW out.

But strange people have comments on how others should play and what they should do for fun.
But it’s always fun to kill Wam

When you see 6-8 BWs, you know its a premade warband. When you see random assembly of WLs, SWs and WHs, you know it's a pug warband.
We would run SWs if they had not been nerfed to oblivion and maybe even get WL if they were able to provide same stuff that Maras can in warband scale, but now it's about getting 1 slayer for Shatter Limbs, 1-2 engi for pulls and the remainder is BW bomb dmg.