DPS Pro's and Cons

[Talvarik]

I love this game and how different each MDPS, RDPS, and Stealth DPS class feels and looks. That being said I am filled with questions and not a ton of up to date information.

So I was hoping maybe I could get some input. What shines or fails and where. With my limited knowledge i know WH can do great things 1v1 with gear, but in a warband they don't have a great purpose. I find myself now torn between Magus, Engi, and SW but in all reality i don't know the strengths and weaknesses of each class. What do they do worse or better than other DPS classes. **** the only video i can find of Magus is that Jono cat seeming like hes tankier than a SnB Chosen haha. Jokes aside i'm just looking for info and hoping this is the place.

Even if its just one class or hell one spec of a class you know really well. Talk about it, whats it shortcomings and where does it excel. I'm a noob looking to learn and sometimes reaching out to the most experienced is the best way. Thanks a bunch everyone.

[Glorian]

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The Ultimate Bitterstone Engineers guide.

In the different builds you will find information what you can do and what you can't do on the different engineers specs.

But I can't really tell the difference in detail to the other rdps as I played them only surfacely here or on live.

Engi vs BW. BW has much higher Dps with much higher squishiness. You need a tank or are a giant target. Excels in WBs with heal and tank and super dps bomb with good abilities and bomb m2.

Engi vs SW. SW is much more mobile, don't need to drag a turret behind itself, can reach much higher WS grades and therefore armor piercing. Has a ranged knockdown easily reachable. Has range 100ft on Skirmish attacks where Engi only gets 80ft.
Also has this AoE shot that does some buff or debuff the rest of your wb likes.

[dansari]

SW specs are pretty much either Assault or Skirmish atm. Assault used to be much stronger when Wrist Slash wasn't on a 25% chance to proc, but imo Assault is still the best main tree. It provides good single target burst albeit it's a bit of a boring rotation atm. Skirmish is your bread and butter main tree though and honestly if I were just starting out I would play Skirmish up to rr50 before swapping to Assault. With either spec you will want the 50% outgoing heal debuff, Shadow Sting, as its the best order has to offer in terms of uptime potential.

SW is the most mobile rdps for order but it doesn't bomb nearly as well as BW or even engy, so where SW is not a *great* warband class, it is top-tier for small scale (again, Assault specced). There's a lot of nuance with the class, so honestly I'll just point you to this:

https://wiki.returnofreckoning.com/inde ... ior#Builds

It includes a fair amount of early leveling decisions and their reasoning, which should help you get started.

[Sgttimmen]

BW is, when it hits, awesome dmg dealer to play in a wb or Group. The when it hits part is from the dreadful "Disrupt", but as long as you dont target healers or s&b tanks too much its a great fun class with a lot of useful spells and specs. Also its not a solo class since BW/Sorc can kill themself due to mechanics, but those mecs increase dmg a lot!


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[peterthepan3]

Havoc Magus has among the top burst potential game (I'd say highest, personally). It's also the best dueling RDPS on destro, and a very good solo class.

Con? Mobility...or lack, thereof. If you have to move even a centimeter, you'll feel it.

[Fallenkezef]

Havoc Magus has among the top burst potential game (I'd say highest, personally). It's also the best dueling RDPS on destro, and a very good solo class.

Con? Mobility...or lack, thereof. If you have to move even a centimeter, you'll feel it.

I find it very British, pick your ground and hold it till you die or the other guy does

[peterthepan3]

Havoc Magus has among the top burst potential game (I'd say highest, personally). It's also the best dueling RDPS on destro, and a very good solo class.

Con? Mobility...or lack, thereof. If you have to move even a centimeter, you'll feel it.

I find it very British, pick your ground and hold it till you die or the other guy does

[Telperien]

I played SW to rr 70 mostly assault and it was great fun, now rerolled magus, late 20ish rank and I still dont get it. No mobility, 50% spells disrupted, when try to assist battlefield moves away and i`m stuck behind, if want to keep up with pet, i run out of ap:( - hard life. I hope later will be better like others say. What i`m trying to say - pick class that suits your playstyle. SW is very mobile, Magus is root to one place.

[lefze]

I played SW to rr 70 mostly assault and it was great fun, now rerolled magus, late 20ish rank and I still dont get it. No mobility, 50% spells disrupted, when try to assist battlefield moves away and i`m stuck behind, if want to keep up with pet, i run out of ap:( - hard life. I hope later will be better like others say. What i`m trying to say - pick class that suits your playstyle. SW is very mobile, Magus is root to one place.

Chaotic Attunement helps a lot and is pretty mandatory in most specs. You still get gimped by having to move, but it's completely playable. Magus requires pretty good gear and doesn't really shine until you get ALL the goodies, but you will get there if you keep at it.

[peterthepan3]

I played SW to rr 70 mostly assault and it was great fun, now rerolled magus, late 20ish rank and I still dont get it. No mobility, 50% spells disrupted, when try to assist battlefield moves away and i`m stuck behind, if want to keep up with pet, i run out of ap:( - hard life. I hope later will be better like others say. What i`m trying to say - pick class that suits your playstyle. SW is very mobile, Magus is root to one place.

You're playing an incredibly-late bloomer of a class. Level 20 is hardly any better than level 1 on the Magus...wait it out.