Reintroductions and reflections.

[Azarael]

Nothing is perfect, as I've said before. Nothing. You can either believe that the situation will improve to a tolerable level under me, or you can decide that it will never be good enough. Only you can make that decision. All I can do is set out my philosophy and intentions and follow them as best I am able.

[saupreusse]

I would kindly remind you that this thread wont serve the purpose to open a hunting season on staff members!

[Zxul]

Make a thread and I'll respond to that one. We'll need this one to remain on topic.

Thanks, made a dedicated thread - viewtopic.php?f=73&t=27656.

[Hargrim]

We've all felt we were wronged many times in life. You just move on.
Demanding vengeance is just immaturity.

Its not vengence Telen. Aza topic didnt last 2 days without players being disrespected by other staff members already and its not going to stop unless they are removed.

If you refer to me I will try to get better.

[Gravord]

Nothing is perfect, as I've said before. Nothing. You can either believe that the situation will improve to a tolerable level under me, or you can decide that it will never be good enough. Only you can make that decision. All I can do is set out my philosophy and intentions and follow them as best I am able.

As some staff have no problem with disrespecting playes in your own topic about reflections its rather unlikely situation will improve. As you said earlier, you have no real power over them, so whats stopping them from continuing abuse of power if they are untouchable?

[Hargrim]

Nothing is perfect, as I've said before. Nothing. You can either believe that the situation will improve to a tolerable level under me, or you can decide that it will never be good enough. Only you can make that decision. All I can do is set out my philosophy and intentions and follow them as best I am able.

As some staff have no problem with disrespecting playes in your own topic about reflections its rather unlikely situation will improve. As you said earlier, you have no real power over them, so whats stopping them from continuing abuse of power if they are untouchable?

Maybe there are things in the world that do not have to be based solely on power.

[Gravord]

Nothing is perfect, as I've said before. Nothing. You can either believe that the situation will improve to a tolerable level under me, or you can decide that it will never be good enough. Only you can make that decision. All I can do is set out my philosophy and intentions and follow them as best I am able.

As some staff have no problem with disrespecting playes in your own topic about reflections its rather unlikely situation will improve. As you said earlier, you have no real power over them, so whats stopping them from continuing abuse of power if they are untouchable?

Maybe there are things in the world that do not have to be based solely on power.

Sure, there are things not based on power. But project like this need clear structure and accountability. If theres non, community trust drops and server gets empty. Unlucky for the project it does certainly feel that for some staff members keeping position is more important than number of players online and well being of the whole project.

[Hargrim]

@Gravord

Do you have someone specific in mind? I think you refereed to me on this page of this thread, am I right? Am I the only one? I'm not sure being vague helps to clear the air, which you apparently want.

[Azarael]

A project like this cannot have "clear structure and accountability" because of the nature of the hard power. Any person who has been entrusted with source code access has the theoretical power to begin another server if they feel aggrieved. The person who pays for the hardware chooses not to involve himself. The only power in RoR is soft power, and it's earned; this project is changed with influence, not attempts to sunder the staff.

[Telen]

Its not vengence Telen. Aza topic didnt last 2 days without players being disrespected by other staff members already and its not going to stop unless they are removed.

Dude, you asked how staff are removed in a thread that was conciliatory and about wanting to reconcile past problems. You might not have meant it the way it came across but that would wind me up too. Its a voluntary project people have put effort into so we can play a dead game. Its not a corporation with a HR department. If I'd put in my time and then people started demanding I be removed well I can tell you I'd have a very fruity response.