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bctakhy
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Re: Something unfair about the classes

Post#31 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:06 am

CountTalabecland wrote: Mon Oct 01, 2018 12:39 am
Foomy44 wrote: Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:35 pm Order has 3 classes with pounce, destro has 1.
White Lion has pounce.... What are the other 2?
WL, SM and SH
Wuu wrote: Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:01 pm
Tesq wrote: Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:41 pm anyway.....before the buff with 30% speed that pull was ignored, so what changed ? what is that make the pull so strong is just the pull in general for you mainly order players or only the speed buff or both? lets make this constructive and maybe i will make a proposal for you since i do to think that the pull is off anyway.
I've been pulled when not in LoS of the CHoppa. I've been pulled from the third floor to the ground. I've been pulled when the Choppa had his back to me. Today I was on the third floor in a keep defense, no LOS of the steps with my back to the pillars. Never saw the choppa put got pulled to the steps. How do you defend against something you don't even see? The very fact that there are so many Choppas means that the ability is realm defining.
I think ppl get pulled ( and also hited by melee) from walls, other floors just cos of lag. And it is not schoppa pull, is all pulls and all skills.

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kauyon1
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Re: Something unfair about the classes

Post#32 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:14 am

bctakhy wrote: Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:06 am I think ppl get pulled ( and also hited by melee) from walls, other floors just cos of lag. And it is not schoppa pull, is all pulls and all skills.
BS. Except every order player has experienced Choppa into the door. Never a Mara nor Magus. There is only one pull doing it.

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bichka
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Re: Something unfair about the classes

Post#33 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:22 am

kmark101 wrote: Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:52 pm It's well known that melee SH balance is out of hand right now, unfortunately class balancing stopped before it was toned down.

Other than that, destro is always the coordinated, veteran, premade players playing every classes to their full potential, while order is the world of nonguarding tanks (including you Chinesehero), sucky dps'Ing healers and solo charging slayers.
seriously? in most scs i see only pugs, outside rr event you will be lucky if there even 1 healing healer on sc and i almost forgot what is guard is. And even if someone guarding you they almost never following or trying to save you. Exceptions is very rare.

Yes, Chineesehero is droping fast. But under some good healing he is good agromagnet for all dpses :D. There no other tank like he, i just can't resist :mrgreen:

Foomy44
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Re: Something unfair about the classes

Post#34 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:35 am

CountTalabecland wrote: Mon Oct 01, 2018 12:39 am
Foomy44 wrote: Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:35 pm Order has 3 classes with pounce, destro has 1.
White Lion has pounce.... What are the other 2?
SW, SM M1. I was pouncing into keeps during sieges on my SM b4 melee SH was ever a thing.

Edit: M2 I mean
Last edited by Foomy44 on Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:02 am, edited 1 time in total.
Destro: Chompy, ShroomStew, TrollBlood, DoomBeast, DoomDoctor, DoomDisk, Doomshadow, FunkFoot, Bloodwell
Order: Stormwall, Mistfall, CatNap, BoomRune, Bangman

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kauyon1
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Re: Something unfair about the classes

Post#35 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:29 am

Foomy44 wrote: Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:35 am SW, SM M1. I was pouncing into keeps during sieges on my SM b4 melee SH was ever a thing.
Well, you might have been the only SM doing it before SHs, because for the rest of the SM it's an M2.

harkerkane
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Re: Something unfair about the classes

Post#36 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:38 am

To be fair the mara pull and the lion can be seen before . And manage / defend .Choppa pull is 360 without target and not even an anime before. It s an iwin button because the focus aoe will kill all players unless tanks specs without any positional or sequenced skills.

For the bo giving extra armor and resist the sm has exactlty the same and is in a very interesting shape for now

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bctakhy
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Re: Something unfair about the classes

Post#37 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:25 am

kauyon1 wrote: Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:14 am
bctakhy wrote: Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:06 am I think ppl get pulled ( and also hited by melee) from walls, other floors just cos of lag. And it is not schoppa pull, is all pulls and all skills.
BS. Except every order player has experienced Choppa into the door. Never a Mara nor Magus. There is only one pull doing it.
Im unlucky then cos i got pulled from magus and engs to doors

Chinesehero
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Re: Something unfair about the classes

Post#38 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:37 am

I read above and sth I dont understand
Someone say SM have pounce, where is it???I never use???Always slow and let escape
Please teach me where SM pounce is ???

Someone take pounce compare with chopa pull. That mean he play not enough SC
Play more SC/rvr u will know what is the difference. U can pull a weak and soft to your strong position. Pounce is good for alone roam but not in the WAR. Can u pounce into the zerg to kill???

Pull ability is far stronger than the pounce. Let u choose u want which one?

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Chinesehero
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Re: Something unfair about the classes

Post#39 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:44 am

bichka wrote: Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:22 am
kmark101 wrote: Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:52 pm It's well known that melee SH balance is out of hand right now, unfortunately class balancing stopped before it was toned down.

Other than that, destro is always the coordinated, veteran, premade players playing every classes to their full potential, while order is the world of nonguarding tanks (including you Chinesehero), sucky dps'Ing healers and solo charging slayers.
seriously? in most scs i see only pugs, outside rr event you will be lucky if there even 1 healing healer on sc and i almost forgot what is guard is. And even if someone guarding you they almost never following or trying to save you. Exceptions is very rare.

Yes, Chineesehero is droping fast. But under some good healing he is good agromagnet for all dpses :D. There no other tank like he, i just can't resist :mrgreen:
Thanks. u can point out that. So far I am a professional player unlucky is that most of them in Destro side but I like take challenge
and hope every order player can grow up and fight. In a SC, most of the Destro get faster to a flag point while half of order still in wc. Then u can understand what a difference is on both side

Chinesehero
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Re: Something unfair about the classes

Post#40 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:51 am

Most Order still have the mind on guarding a Mdps but not a Off tank. And that's why we have no front line in the RVR. Please keep in mind what the function the Off tank in the WAR that Mdps cant be replaced. That why order always lose at the same number.

Someone have Def the keep with me may understand the Power of a guarded Off tank. It has Power and super Def. Ofc, it is supported by good healer and good tank. WAR is a cooperation game not alone.

And some tank rather guard a healer and go front line. And he ignore what u say. Many kind of player play like that. Guard a healer then go front and let the Off tank lose the power

Also, to play this style u must have the best gear.

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