How is the stats exchange calculation?

[DanielWinner]

Stats dont really matter against zerg
Beside of that your calculation is correct.

No, every more stat make u more survival.
Every one said me is paper in SC
Actually they dont know I got 4000 armor and 600 resistance if add aura will over 800 resistance
with this build I die just because I always get Destro Focus Fire and ofc, healer only can focus heal to save me
I find a interesting thing is that the Destro see me in SC must hit me even I hide behind
Actually Chopa or Mara cant hurt me, only Sorc can do some dmg. That's why I hide she still chase

Poor fella completely misses the point that his sweet armor can be double debuffed so hard (more than 2000) that he will be naked not only because of appearance bug.
At the meantime crit on you can’t be debuffed more than 10-20%.

[ragafury]

Stats dont really matter against zerg
Beside of that your calculation is correct.

No, every more stat make u more survival.
Every one said me is paper in SC
Actually they dont know I got 4000 armor and 600 resistance if add aura will over 800 resistance
with this build I die just because I always get Destro Focus Fire and ofc, healer only can focus heal to save me
I find a interesting thing is that the Destro see me in SC must hit me even I hide behind
Actually Chopa or Mara cant hurt me, only Sorc can do some dmg. That's why I hide she still chase

Poor fella completely misses the point that his sweet armor can be double debuffed so hard (more than 2000) that he will be naked not only because of appearance bug.
At the meantime crit on you can’t be debuffed more than 10-20%.

1056 Demolishing Strike / 1320 Tzeentch's Talon

+

1540 Marauder Cutting Claw / 1280 Horrific Wound / 990 Wot Armor

+

891 Sweeping Disgorgement Tactic

are the common debuffs.

~2000 is the bare minimum; 3700+ the maximum afaik

[Chinesehero]

this might be helpful:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =989717434

very good table but seems not finish with some parts

[Chinesehero]

Stats dont really matter against zerg
Beside of that your calculation is correct.

No, every more stat make u more survival.
Every one said me is paper in SC
Actually they dont know I got 4000 armor and 600 resistance if add aura will over 800 resistance
with this build I die just because I always get Destro Focus Fire and ofc, healer only can focus heal to save me
I find a interesting thing is that the Destro see me in SC must hit me even I hide behind
Actually Chopa or Mara cant hurt me, only Sorc can do some dmg. That's why I hide she still chase

Poor fella completely misses the point that his sweet armor can be double debuffed so hard (more than 2000) that he will be naked not only because of appearance bug.
At the meantime crit on you can’t be debuffed more than 10-20%.

how to deduce me 2000 armor?

[Chinesehero]

No, every more stat make u more survival.
Every one said me is paper in SC
Actually they dont know I got 4000 armor and 600 resistance if add aura will over 800 resistance
with this build I die just because I always get Destro Focus Fire and ofc, healer only can focus heal to save me
I find a interesting thing is that the Destro see me in SC must hit me even I hide behind
Actually Chopa or Mara cant hurt me, only Sorc can do some dmg. That's why I hide she still chase

Poor fella completely misses the point that his sweet armor can be double debuffed so hard (more than 2000) that he will be naked not only because of appearance bug.
At the meantime crit on you can’t be debuffed more than 10-20%.

1056 Demolishing Strike / 1320 Tzeentch's Talon

+

1540 Marauder Cutting Claw / 1280 Horrific Wound / 990 Wot Armor

+

891 Sweeping Disgorgement Tactic

are the common debuffs.

~2000 is the bare minimum; 3700+ the maximum afaik

did they stack? why order dont have this?

[ragafury]

No, every more stat make u more survival.
Every one said me is paper in SC
Actually they dont know I got 4000 armor and 600 resistance if add aura will over 800 resistance
with this build I die just because I always get Destro Focus Fire and ofc, healer only can focus heal to save me
I find a interesting thing is that the Destro see me in SC must hit me even I hide behind
Actually Chopa or Mara cant hurt me, only Sorc can do some dmg. That's why I hide she still chase

Poor fella completely misses the point that his sweet armor can be double debuffed so hard (more than 2000) that he will be naked not only because of appearance bug.
At the meantime crit on you can’t be debuffed more than 10-20%.

how to deduce me 2000 armor?

if you get hit with cutting claw (mara) and demolishing strike (any tank) at the same time as an example.

-1540 armor + -1056 armor = -2596 armor

order has the same on White Lion and every tank.

[Chinesehero]

No, every more stat make u more survival.
Every one said me is paper in SC
Actually they dont know I got 4000 armor and 600 resistance if add aura will over 800 resistance
with this build I die just because I always get Destro Focus Fire and ofc, healer only can focus heal to save me
I find a interesting thing is that the Destro see me in SC must hit me even I hide behind
Actually Chopa or Mara cant hurt me, only Sorc can do some dmg. That's why I hide she still chase

Poor fella completely misses the point that his sweet armor can be double debuffed so hard (more than 2000) that he will be naked not only because of appearance bug.
At the meantime crit on you can’t be debuffed more than 10-20%.

1056 Demolishing Strike / 1320 Tzeentch's Talon

+

1540 Marauder Cutting Claw / 1280 Horrific Wound / 990 Wot Armor

+

891 Sweeping Disgorgement Tactic

are the common debuffs.

~2000 is the bare minimum; 3700+ the maximum afaik

If destro can do 3700 armor deduced, with dps 40% armor pen
even a 1h tank have 6000 armor still get 0% mit
U sure they can add up to 3700?

[Chinesehero]

Poor fella completely misses the point that his sweet armor can be double debuffed so hard (more than 2000) that he will be naked not only because of appearance bug.
At the meantime crit on you can’t be debuffed more than 10-20%.

how to deduce me 2000 armor?

if you get hit with cutting claw (mara) and demolishing strike (any tank) at the same time as an example.

-1540 armor + -1056 armor = -2596 armor

order has the same on White Lion and every tank.

SM dont have debuff on armor. only add armor buff
Ofc, debuff is useful than buff

[ragafury]

well yes.
unless it got changed.

the main difference in this case between order and destro is Sweeping Disgorgement Tactic which is currently on Zealot;

this however requires multiple things:

a) the Zealot has to spec for it
b) the Zealot has to slot the tactic
c) the Zealot has to go close range and use demon spittle
d) the Zealot has to pass the disrupt check
e) one debuff EACH of the above categories (morale AND ability) has to be present on the target and not get cleansed (the abilities are cleansible)

the above case is an extreme which requires coordination, it doesn't happen on a regular basis in pug sc's. it's a premade pocket strat.

the potential is there, and that's not a secret.

SM has access to demolishing strike. Tank M1. it has an armor debuffing component with a value of -1056.

[DanielWinner]

how to deduce me 2000 armor?

if you get hit with cutting claw (mara) and demolishing strike (any tank) at the same time as an example.

-1540 armor + -1056 armor = -2596 armor

order has the same on White Lion and every tank.

SM dont have debuff on armor. only add armor buff
Ofc, debuff is useful than buff

Morale 1: Demolishing Strike, dude.