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Kragg
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Re: Something I noticed on the forums

Post#101 » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:53 am

wonshot wrote: Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:45 am
Kragg wrote: Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:25 pm
wonshot wrote: Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:31 pm


So yeah the server allows for such, dishonorable moves, but what can you do. t.
I am glad we agree. Setting up an effort and turn it into a farmfest just shows a lack of class.
The "better guilds" comments had me laugh though, results speak for themselves. Stay Bitter
You lost half your guild over night. Looking for players in /5 #topguild

And that is not being bitter, that is laughing my ass off :mrgreen:
Lost half of our guild over night? 3 guys were picked up and given a home in DnD because TUP was nolonger playing, when Wam returned they went to play Destro. We for sure lost some of the original players from AoR Live in this process, some were not interested in playing Warband and wanted to do smallscale. Some individuals were attempted on trial and either left because they couldnt handle the presure, or were simply not good enough. This is a natural thing when expectations are high, and the overall quality on order is too low to even attempt recruiting.

Untill last thursday we we still had a core of 3fg guildies. So I dont know where you find this cute rumor about half of the guild made an Exodus over night.

As for your comments about being a top guild, previously on RoR other guilds have found succes on order with BW but none of them to the extend where they got Flashfire and M2 nerfed. And Phalax could have returned to the server if Hao simply talked to Aza, but he didnt want to.

So enjoy your rumors, being farmed on wedsdays and leave the killing to the professionels.
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Sulorie
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Re: Something I noticed on the forums

Post#102 » Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:01 am

geezereur wrote: Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:00 am

Un Nerf Id for Slayers and we might come back :P
All I want for christmas is an Un Nerfed ID....
ID in a warband setting is as good as before for aoe damage. I don't see how un-nerfing would help you.
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CountTalabecland
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Re: Something I noticed on the forums

Post#103 » Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:41 pm

mubbl wrote: Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:42 am
CountTalabecland wrote: Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:21 pm Choppa Pull is crazy OP. Unlike a squishy Magus or an Engineer, Choppa takes no risk in pulling any class to itself. Additionally, the fact that it triggers three times during the channel means good facking luck avoiding it.

As a Slayer you know that if you get within 50ft of destro in orvr, you are probably dead unless Order is pushing. There is a way to carefully position and kind of avoid it but its not really a conducive way to play mdps.
hmm my min/maxed magus is nearly as tanky as a tank, how tanky should my just offensive spec choppa in redrage be then?.....ever heard off taunt? a guy holding his arms up in the air and is bigger then anything else should be interruptable and targetable. you have like a 3 sec window for that, maybe the range is a bit to big on gtdc.

And i cant belive a mdps with these possibilities order can hand out on crit and procs cant work, okay you dont have aoe armordebuff, but you have like 25% crit and parry...
AOE Slayer doesnt spec crit.Even then, 25% is hard to reach outside giantslayer. There is no way for a Slayer to prevent choppa pull, additionally, its not as easy to see as you think and even then 3 seconds is not long when there are 24-48 odd dest in front of you and 8 or more of them are choppas.
And I never seem to parry the pull with 45% parry
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Re: Something I noticed on the forums

Post#104 » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:44 pm

"Nerf this!"
"Buff that!"
"Don't touch this."
"Order bias!"
"No, not like this, I like it the other way."
"Stop zerg!."
"Why xrealm?!"
"You are dessoilving Order.."
"Where's my new gear?!"
"This class is useless!"
"Why didn't you patch that?!"
"Destro is so mean!"
"Order Zergs all the time!"
"Why you ruin my small scale in oRvR?!"
"Where's my candy?!"
"Why did you kick me?!"
"Why the lag?"
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mubbl
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Re: Something I noticed on the forums

Post#105 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:27 am

Spoiler:
CountTalabecland wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:41 pm
mubbl wrote: Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:42 am
CountTalabecland wrote: Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:21 pm Choppa Pull is crazy OP. Unlike a squishy Magus or an Engineer, Choppa takes no risk in pulling any class to itself. Additionally, the fact that it triggers three times during the channel means good facking luck avoiding it.

As a Slayer you know that if you get within 50ft of destro in orvr, you are probably dead unless Order is pushing. There is a way to carefully position and kind of avoid it but its not really a conducive way to play mdps.
hmm my min/maxed magus is nearly as tanky as a tank, how tanky should my just offensive spec choppa in redrage be then?.....ever heard off taunt? a guy holding his arms up in the air and is bigger then anything else should be interruptable and targetable. you have like a 3 sec window for that, maybe the range is a bit to big on gtdc.

And i cant belive a mdps with these possibilities order can hand out on crit and procs cant work, okay you dont have aoe armordebuff, but you have like 25% crit and parry...
AOE Slayer doesnt spec crit.Even then, 25% is hard to reach outside giantslayer. There is no way for a Slayer to prevent choppa pull, additionally, its not as easy to see as you think and even then 3 seconds is not long when there are 24-48 odd dest in front of you and 8 or more of them are choppas.
And I never seem to parry the pull with 45% parry
you should have like at least 8 tanks in a proper wb for using taunt. the values come from buffs, ib and kotbs, so you dont have to, but can also spec it as slayer. it is parry able if you dont run away.

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CountTalabecland
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Re: Something I noticed on the forums

Post#106 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:15 pm

mubbl wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:27 am
Spoiler:
CountTalabecland wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:41 pm
mubbl wrote: Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:42 am

hmm my min/maxed magus is nearly as tanky as a tank, how tanky should my just offensive spec choppa in redrage be then?.....ever heard off taunt? a guy holding his arms up in the air and is bigger then anything else should be interruptable and targetable. you have like a 3 sec window for that, maybe the range is a bit to big on gtdc.

And i cant belive a mdps with these possibilities order can hand out on crit and procs cant work, okay you dont have aoe armordebuff, but you have like 25% crit and parry...
AOE Slayer doesnt spec crit.Even then, 25% is hard to reach outside giantslayer. There is no way for a Slayer to prevent choppa pull, additionally, its not as easy to see as you think and even then 3 seconds is not long when there are 24-48 odd dest in front of you and 8 or more of them are choppas.
And I never seem to parry the pull with 45% parry
you should have like at least 8 tanks in a proper wb for using taunt. the values come from buffs, ib and kotbs, so you dont have to, but can also spec it as slayer. it is parry able if you dont run away.
To parry a choppa pull you have to parry three times right? since it triggers once every two seconds?

And lol, 8 tanks who know to use taunt on Order? Happens maybe once per week during guild events.
Slayer needs an interrupt or cc to give it some utility. If WL is going to be endlessly reworked, SL needs an way not to be a pin cushion and force engagements.
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Xergon
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Re: Something I noticed on the forums

Post#107 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:20 pm

CountTalabecland wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:15 pm
Spoiler:
mubbl wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:27 am
Spoiler:
CountTalabecland wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:41 pm

AOE Slayer doesnt spec crit.Even then, 25% is hard to reach outside giantslayer. There is no way for a Slayer to prevent choppa pull, additionally, its not as easy to see as you think and even then 3 seconds is not long when there are 24-48 odd dest in front of you and 8 or more of them are choppas.
And I never seem to parry the pull with 45% parry
you should have like at least 8 tanks in a proper wb for using taunt. the values come from buffs, ib and kotbs, so you dont have to, but can also spec it as slayer. it is parry able if you dont run away.
To parry a choppa pull you have to parry three times right? since it triggers once every two seconds?

And lol, 8 tanks who know to use taunt on Order? Happens maybe once per week during guild events.
Slayer needs an interrupt or cc to give it some utility. If WL is going to be endlessly reworked, SL needs an way not to be a pin cushion and force engagements.
4 times to be exact, it proc 4 times if fully channeled, on 0th s, on 2nd sec, on 4th s and on 6th s.
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Re: Something I noticed on the forums

Post#108 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:50 pm

Xergon wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:20 pm
CountTalabecland wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:15 pm
Spoiler:
mubbl wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:27 am
Spoiler:
you should have like at least 8 tanks in a proper wb for using taunt. the values come from buffs, ib and kotbs, so you dont have to, but can also spec it as slayer. it is parry able if you dont run away.
To parry a choppa pull you have to parry three times right? since it triggers once every two seconds?

And lol, 8 tanks who know to use taunt on Order? Happens maybe once per week during guild events.
Slayer needs an interrupt or cc to give it some utility. If WL is going to be endlessly reworked, SL needs an way not to be a pin cushion and force engagements.
4 times to be exact, it proc 4 times if fully channeled, on 0th s, on 2nd sec, on 4th s and on 6th s.
Seems legit.

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Sulorie
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Re: Something I noticed on the forums

Post#109 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:28 am

CountTalabecland wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:15 pm
To parry a choppa pull you have to parry three times right? since it triggers once every two seconds?
It pulls one target per interval. Are you alone or why do you have to parry it 4 times?
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Einherja
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Re: Something I noticed on the forums

Post#110 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:23 am

wonshot wrote: Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:45 am
Kragg wrote: Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:25 pm
wonshot wrote: Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:31 pm


So yeah the server allows for such, dishonorable moves, but what can you do. t.
I am glad we agree. Setting up an effort and turn it into a farmfest just shows a lack of class.
The "better guilds" comments had me laugh though, results speak for themselves. Stay Bitter
You lost half your guild over night. Looking for players in /5 #topguild

And that is not being bitter, that is laughing my ass off :mrgreen:
Lost half of our guild over night? 3 guys were picked up and given a home in DnD because TUP was nolonger playing, when Wam returned they went to play Destro. We for sure lost some of the original players from AoR Live in this process, some were not interested in playing Warband and wanted to do smallscale. Some individuals were attempted on trial and either left because they couldnt handle the presure, or were simply not good enough. This is a natural thing when expectations are high, and the overall quality on order is too low to even attempt recruiting.

Untill last thursday we we still had a core of 3fg guildies. So I dont know where you find this cute rumor about half of the guild made an Exodus over night.

As for your comments about being a top guild, previously on RoR other guilds have found succes on order with BW but none of them to the extend where they got Flashfire and M2 nerfed. And Phalax could have returned to the server if Hao simply talked to Aza, but he didnt want to.

So enjoy your rumors, being farmed on wedsdays and leave the killing to the professionels.
professional aoe spamming?! embarrasing...

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