Make WAR a RvR-Game. Say no to pve-item drops!

[Cornerback]

Hi ppl, hi devs,

Warhammer Online was designed as an RvR-game.
However, from the beginning on, the best items could be obtained by doing pve. This is and was, imho, a major flaw in a pvp based game.

Please don't repeat Mythics mistakes. Just make the best items drop from player kills and/or give them away as rvr influence rewards and people will start slaughtering each other instead of killing millions of trolls for green items.

Otherwise, the game will again turn into a huge pve item grind game. And thats what we got WoW for...

[Cornerback]

And please don't tell us that you want the game to be as mythic-like as possible. The original WAR had some major flaws and YOU guys have the possibility to correct those issues instead of repeating them.

[ThrazKing]

Don't know what game you were playing. But from my experience from an RR80 SH to a RR100 SH, the best gear came from strictly PvP. PvE was decent, aye. But it wasn't the best. Only late game around RR80 when it was Max Cap, ToVL's gear set was BiS for a few classes. Squig Herders, Chosens, Shamans, and White Lions. When they came out with RR100, ToVL pieces fell off. Warpforged took over. Right now in the private server, yes. PvE gear is dominating. Mainly due to the fact that we're stuck in T1. But come T2 and higher, you'll notice that the PvP/RvR sets will completely dominate.

[Cornerback]

Well... somehow you are right. PvE gear was essential until the ridiculously overpowered rr90/100 gear was released Another thing that should be undone on this server.

Also, talking about t2 makes no sense atm as we have no t2. Just t1.

And I don't know if we will ever get a t3/t4, cuz this requires a rather big player base and a stable population thoughout all tiers.

And please remember what happened to the original WAR. Therefore, at some point, the devs HAVE to make a cut and move into another direction. Just recreating the original game without any changes will lead to the same end as the original WAR.

[satekh]

Well... somehow you are right. PvE gear was essential until the ridiculously overpowered rr90/100 gear was released Another thing that should be undone on this server.

Seems to me you didn't like WAR at all and maybe should look for another game?

[ThrazKing]

PvE gear was never an option, until Tomb of the Vulture Lord was released. But even then. The Best in Slot from the ToVL raid was for a few classes, which doesn't make them OP at all. It only leveled the playing field for classes such as the Squig Herder, who were under-powered at the time. This allowed them to dab into the Squig Armor spec for the game; which made melee Squig Herders viable. I went from 1-40 RR 1-100 with nothing but pvp on my second Squig Herder, to my Choppa, Black Orc, Slayer, and Iron Breaker. Not once have I ever had any problems or my friends tell me that PvE gear trumps RvR gear. I mean. The PvE gear looks better than RvR until RR80. But that was it. A vanity set, rather than one that serves actual purpose or helps boost your damage. Wait on T2 and you'll see it change. Ontop of that. Influence gear from RvR is pretty sweet. Higher stats than PvE influence tbh.

[Cornerback]

Well... somehow you are right. PvE gear was essential until the ridiculously overpowered rr90/100 gear was released Another thing that should be undone on this server.

Seems to me you didn't like WAR at all and maybe should look for another game?

WAR was and is the greatest game of all time (for me). Mythic however, wasn't that great

Also, I don't care about t2+, as we don't have any t2+ right now. We have t1 and some trolls in Altdorf are dropping the best currently obtainable equipment. This is ridiculous in a RvR-game Imagine all the item-farmers would kill players instead. Hell, we might even have some **** RVR-action.

@ThrazKing: when exactly did you start playing WAR? Do you even remember the times when you had to get golden bags from fortresses to get invader gear? Not talking about warlord/sov

[Elven]

The intention of the project is to revive the game to the state in which it was when the official live servers closed.

Yes, we have the power to make changes that we feel to be "right", within reason.

As you already stated, we're not Mythic. We're a small team of people you can count with one hand.

[Xylon666Darkstar]

Best gear did from pvp. As you progress through the RR. The pve drops as they are now is simply a normal part of power growth in the game (or any MMO for that matter at this stage).

[Mec]

Well... somehow you are right. PvE gear was essential until the ridiculously overpowered rr90/100 gear was released Another thing that should be undone on this server.

Seems to me you didn't like WAR at all and maybe should look for another game?

WAR was and is the greatest game of all time (for me). Mythic however, wasn't that great

Also, I don't care about t2+, as we don't have any t2+ right now. We have t1 and some trolls in Altdorf are dropping the best currently obtainable equipment. This is ridiculous in a RvR-game Imagine all the item-farmes would kill players instead. Hell, we might even have some **** RVR-action.

@ThrazKing: when exactly did you start playing WAR? Do you even remember the times when you had to get golden bags from fortresses to get invader gear? Not talking about warlord/sov

Don't make me remember the **** golden bags. A guy just stands there afk while everyone else does work and he gets first place.