If Order cannot win Scenarios, how do we get emblems?

[Ysaran]

It's not an issue.

i play only destro and never won an sc in which there was Secrets . so no order dont lose always

[zgolec]

Uhhh... Yday with our pemade won like 12 sc, lost 1.... pick Your pt well, know ur place and role and win...

[peterthepan3]

Also worth noting that if you go for the premade grp game, some classes work for that and some are novelties, like Slayer, where WL can do the job better in any scenario.

Not necessarily true as a well-played Slayer (who is guarded and healed) will cause more mayhem than a WL will - there's just so few of them.

[Lime]

That said, 10/12 players being RDPS who somehow manage to not keep their range and get caught and contribute no damage on account of being dead will still cost you a lot of scenarios. Also worth noting that if you go for the premade grp game, some classes work for that and some are novelties, like Slayer, where WL can do the job better in any scenario.

WL is great at dealing with squishes in my experience with the ability to pounce on the backline. However destro likes to run a tank heavy comp to counter orders rdps comp and WL doesn't do great vs that if destro doesn't present soft targets.

Slayer on the other hand has rampage to deal with 60%+ Avoidance tanks and healers with 28% parry without flanking and can turn rr80 deftard chosens into kill targets. Shatter limbs is really really good. Just squishy needing a 2/2/2 team which order likes to run 0/5/1 so probably feels terrible in most pugs.

[Mystry]

Also worth noting that if you go for the premade grp game, some classes work for that and some are novelties, like Slayer, where WL can do the job better in any scenario.

Not necessarily true as a well-played Slayer (who is guarded and healed) will cause more mayhem than a WL will - there's just so few of them.

Order does not have tanks or healers. That's why it can't win scenarios.
Also yadda yadda destro bias on maps, overpowered destro counterparts, extremely rampant exploits to get premades into pug scenarios, you've heard all my gripes before.

[peterthepan3]

Also worth noting that if you go for the premade grp game, some classes work for that and some are novelties, like Slayer, where WL can do the job better in any scenario.

Not necessarily true as a well-played Slayer (who is guarded and healed) will cause more mayhem than a WL will - there's just so few of them.

Order does not have tanks or healers. That's why it can't win scenarios.
Also yadda yadda destro bias on maps, overpowered destro counterparts, extremely rampant exploits to get premades into pug scenarios, you've heard all my gripes before.

You have Ironbreaker, Swordmaster, and KOBS for tanks. You have Warrior Priest, Runepriest, and Archmage for healers. If people decide not to play them, then that is their prerogative, but chaotic environments with an absence of certain archetypes is simply indicative of people not bothering to help their realm/play anything other than DPS; it doesn't negate from the fact that the options are there - should you be willing to stop playing selfishly (not directed at you btw).

If you want to actually succeed, you'll ensure that you play with healers and tanks, or better yet - you'll make one yourself.

[mursaat1337]

ive seen order have 4 IB's and 4 WP's in scs or have 6 healers vs destro's 2 healers or even 6 destro tanks vs orders firing squad of engi's. for pug scs, its the luck of the draw and how to max out of what you are given. though when it comes to balancing premades, thats another topic but i do feel order has much greener cut grass than destro. it sucks to hear the "find friends" thing because its easier said than done but once you find a crew or even someone to duo/roam, the game gets much more fun and appealing. also gear sets do matter so make sure the first set you lock down is beastlord/merc/anni and start working toward the zergfest that is conq/vanq and the grindfest of dom/opp.

[Fey]

If you solo you'd better prefer that playstyle, or you'll have a bad time. 1 or 2 dude friends makes a huge difference.

If you french fry when you should pizza, you're going to have a bad time.

[DokB]

Make your own group and bring your own tanks/healers. Or you could just continue to get your **** stomped by players who actually take the initiative and group up while you continue to bang your head against the wall by relying on the lottery system scenario manager to spit you out a balanced team composition.

The solution has been available to you all since day 1 so why not use it?

[Martok]

Order does not have tanks or healers. That's why it can't win scenarios.

No, no, it is all my fault. Ask anyone. Even those SC's I don't play in that Order loses? My fault. Someone gets killed in an SC? Yep, yep, my fault. Only one emblem rewarded? Got me again. Little old lady got mutilated late last night? Karisanna again...