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parry your guard domage, easy

Post#1 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:57 am

hello,

either some players are in bad faith or they don't have the knowledge. it can be imagined that those who play premade have the knowledge

1 - all guard damage can be parry, even from magical sources

https://youtu.be/ESVWgxEjMcg

2 - we can reach a huge defence against custody in 2 hours and which is not achievable in s&b. (exception BO with "cant hit me")

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to reach the same protection rate in s&b it is necessary :

50 % block + 70% parry ... :shock:

this analysis confirms that you take less guard damage with a high parry rate than with any S&B configuration... :evil:

is it logical?
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Re: parry your guard domage, easy

Post#2 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:24 am

Dear Hogun,

I guess the time has come and you can be finally enlightened.
There a special command in game that shows you true stats: .getstats. So, if you did use it, you would see that paperdoll lies a lot.
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Weapon skills no longer contribute to Parry and it was like this for a loooong time now. So, I can mark this thread as a blatant trolling or manifestation of ignorance since you tried to advocate for high amount of parry which in really is not true. Anyway, I hope that you will put a bit more effort into your posts before posting some provocative stuff again.

Ignorance of the game mechanics does not exempt a person from this responsibility.

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Re: parry your guard domage, easy

Post#3 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:10 am

Also for Hogun:
There is calculation between your WS and target's Strength. WS would really give you an advantage in parrying only when your WS will be muuuuch higher than targets strength and it can be like this mostly in cases of DPS classes which stack WS therefore they will most likely have more of it than say any 2h tank. So it does not effect 2h tanks mostly because their strength almost always is lower than DPS's weapon skills so they does not benefit from it really (for example, if you have a situation of 1050 strength vs 1050 WS, your parry will be 7.5%), and again the only one who would really benefit from WS is a DPS against a tank: dps parry > tank parry based on weapon skills basically.
But if we talk about WS and Guard, then:
4 WS gives you 25% parry which is hardcapped to 25% for the sake of guard. Everyone has more than 4 WS so everyone has the 25% parry bonus for guard and just so it's over abundantly clear, this applies for both SnB and 2H. so it doesn't matter weather you have 4 WS or 600 WS in case of guard. You will always have that 25% as long as you have 4 WS.
So, your WS don't really help with guarding since again you need just 4 WS.
Reason behind this is that guard damage is a 0 strength attack.
Hence also the hardcap, as otherwise you would automatically have 100% parry.

Parry and Block are separate checks which is huge. It means that when you have both Block and Parry, you have much better chances to defend against guard damage so any statements that Parry alone is a great tool against guard is not correct, Block and Parry do that job much better.
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Re: parry your guard domage, easy

Post#4 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:01 pm

DanielWinner wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:24 am Dear Hogun,

I guess the time has come and you can be finally enlightened.
There a special command in game that shows you true stats: .getstats. So, if you did use it, you would see that paperdoll lies a lot.
Image
Weapon skills no longer contribute to Parry and it was like this for a loooong time now. So, I can mark this thread as a blatant trolling or manifestation of ignorance since you tried to advocate for high amount of parry which in really is not true. Anyway, I hope that you will put a bit more effort into your posts before posting some provocative stuff again.

Ignorance of the game mechanics does not exempt a person from this responsibility.

Have a nice day.
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Paperdoll shows total
Getstats shows only TRUE stats and not derivative ones.
While getstats is always more accurate it does NOT add the values from WS to parry that the system does in the background (which paperdoll also does).

Same for the other stats, getstats also tells you this on the first line printed.

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