Reikland Factory 4th Flag Feedback Thread.

[wachlarz]

Why do you people keep making maps that are annoying (specially when pugging) and borderline favors classes that can 1v1? Really stupid, I'm sorry these maps are absolute garbage and is borderline anti-fun.

Mourkain, Tor, and team fight maps should be permanent so that we can actually "play a team game." Don't even dare tell me "grouping up" is boring, the game is balanced around that. Not losing a flag because I can't 1v1 a white lion.

Boring is when premade join sc, stay one place (bo) dont move and win. LIKE anti premade sc.

The only scenarios that would let a premade stand on one point and win are BWC, Caledor Woods and Lost Temple of Isha - and 2 of those have traditionally been 6v6 maps. In every other scenario (iirc), you can either stalemate them (by standing on the second flag, if there are only two), or win them (by taking the other flags, such as in Reikland Flagtory).

Nordewatch Center bo ?

[chokeanutsman]

Why do you people keep making maps that are annoying (specially when pugging) and borderline favors classes that can 1v1? Really stupid, I'm sorry these maps are absolute garbage and is borderline anti-fun.

Mourkain, Tor, and team fight maps should be permanent so that we can actually "play a team game." Don't even dare tell me "grouping up" is boring, the game is balanced around that. Not losing a flag because I can't 1v1 a white lion.

Boring is when premade join sc, stay one place (bo) dont move and win. LIKE anti premade sc.

Ok, pick your poison. Deal with Witch Elfs and White Lions INDIVIDUALLY in 5 flags or be in an honest team fight in a TEAM GAME. What is to say that a "premade" can't be just as bad and "boring in those 3-5 point maps? Specially if their classes are amazing in 1v1s or 2v2s. Game is balanced around 6v6+

[peterthepan3]

Boring is when premade join sc, stay one place (bo) dont move and win. LIKE anti premade sc.

The only scenarios that would let a premade stand on one point and win are BWC, Caledor Woods and Lost Temple of Isha - and 2 of those have traditionally been 6v6 maps. In every other scenario (iirc), you can either stalemate them (by standing on the second flag, if there are only two), or win them (by taking the other flags, such as in Reikland Flagtory).

Nordewatch Center bo ?

That's not a bad thing though? I mean, how much more do you want to promote Dora the Flag Explorer's Cardiovascular Adventure when there already exist 3000 other scenario maps that will let you do this?

[chokeanutsman]

The only scenarios that would let a premade stand on one point and win are BWC, Caledor Woods and Lost Temple of Isha - and 2 of those have traditionally been 6v6 maps. In every other scenario (iirc), you can either stalemate them (by standing on the second flag, if there are only two), or win them (by taking the other flags, such as in Reikland Flagtory).

Nordewatch Center bo ?

That's not a bad thing though? I mean, how much more do you want to promote Dora the Flag Explorer's Cardiovascular Adventure when there already exist 3000 other scenario maps that will let you do this?

Probably because he plays a 1v1 class.

[wachlarz]

The only scenarios that would let a premade stand on one point and win are BWC, Caledor Woods and Lost Temple of Isha - and 2 of those have traditionally been 6v6 maps. In every other scenario (iirc), you can either stalemate them (by standing on the second flag, if there are only two), or win them (by taking the other flags, such as in Reikland Flagtory).

Nordewatch Center bo ?

That's not a bad thing though? I mean, how much more do you want to promote Dora the Flag Explorer's Cardiovascular Adventure when there already exist 3000 other scenario maps that will let you do this?

Wanna fights big fights go rvr.

[roadkillrobin]

The reason this flag was removed was cos it was so darn easy to snipe kills when spawn camping the enemies in this scenario that Mythic had to put in NPC Guards to prevent this behaviour which lead to the removal of the objective.

[Nameless]

On live taking that fist flag pretty much cut enemy ways out and sc ended as wc camping. Dominant side stay on flag, underdog's healers and rdps stay near their guards and some tanks and a few dps try to hit eachother while avoiding enemy guards.
Ror's reikland factory with 3 flags where much better because it give you the freedom of moving around the map without being camped and it opens much more strategic moves instead of wc campfest

[Ketamine]

Why do you people keep making maps that are annoying (specially when pugging) and borderline favors classes that can 1v1? Really stupid, I'm sorry these maps are absolute garbage and is borderline anti-fun.

Mourkain, Tor, and team fight maps should be permanent so that we can actually "play a team game." Don't even dare tell me "grouping up" is boring, the game is balanced around that. Not losing a flag because I can't 1v1 a white lion.

You know we didn't design the scenarios right?

It is tradition that 90% of scenario rotations since a LONG while include mostly PvE scenarios to spoonfeed the pug behaviour this server promotes.
And thats something you devs have more then just control over.

[Skiantos]

I like the flag due to the fact that it is true to live version of the SC. With that said, it always ended up as a launching point for BGs to fire people back to their guards at the boat (WC). I imagine in RoR the same thing will happen.

I moved back guards and warcamp to avoid players running fast into the guard range

I am not sure how far the guards were moved back, but BGs can punt you from the platform to the water.

I was thinking the same thing.

[Hargrim]

I wonder, does the people send letters to Alexey Pajitnov to make Tetris more like Mario Bros, or just play the Mario Bros when they want to play the Mario Bros instead of forcing the developer to make the Tetris more like Mario Bros when games like Mario Bros exist and they are more than welcome to play them?