Engineer vs Magus crit tactic problem

[Tankbeardz]

Screw it. These forums are a pit. There really is no reason in talking truth or giving honest perspectives. It's just 90% **** posters and trolls.

It takes 5 min on an end game engi fighting a well geared enemy to find the problem.

There was almost no trolling or **** posting by anyone. We posted corrections to your information and logical opposing opinions and you just raged out.

[Tesq]

Random engi **** around with cannon smash and uber range: armor is killing my class Q_Q

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Ppl you do less dmg because you have what? 40 feet more of range than a sorc/bw on st dmg? And you also have like 30% armor more?

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Btw cannon smash debuff time lowered to 30 sec and dmg scaled down to 1800 like "any moral 3 " when? Or you still belive go with such order privilege is right and all?

[Ekundu01]

Ppl you do less dmg because you have what? 40 feet more of range than a sorc/bw on st dmg? And you also have like 30% armor more?

It is actually only 25% increase in range max tied to a pet that dies if you fart on it. But bolt/snipe is already baseline 150 ft so it is more like 80+ feet more range then sorc/bw on that one spell.

[DirkDaring]

2.9k snipe is warcamp buff, or a level 15 in the lakes.

As a rr84 engi you are lucky to get a 1.5-2k on an armor debuff on a squishy bolster with coordinated fire up and full stacks.

The average crit for a snipe on an evenly gear squishy like a we / sorc / shaman is gonna be around 1.4-1.8k. That's with gutting your survivability for weaponskill. Endgame gear gives too much armor with pots. Our dps drops harder and harder with each new set. Squigs, mara's, doks, tanky armor tali healers, any kind of tanks will laugh off snipe unless you are double debuffing with a tank, or got a pocket wl for big debuff. It is not a joke to debuff a mara, bo, or dok and then crit on a snipe for under 1000. You eat 65-75% mitigation most of the time.

Similarly geared magus can crit anything that is not a def tank above 2k on BoC thanks to crit damage tactic and damage type. Even a buffed target is gonna be dropped to around 20-30% mitigation with your debuff, so you have less problems.

Physical ranged dps eats it hard since we lack a lot of built in armor ignores that melee get, even the new ability in rifle is a bit of a joke since the cooldown is so long. This isn't so much an engi problem since melee dps, some dps tanks, and other prdps are feeling it now too.

The only real advantage we get in place of magic damage is auto attack which is great against soft targets since it can add another 500-1k to that snipe for a big time stamp, but when you are mitigated into the ground by geared invader / bloodlord armor levels, or simply tank / dok / mara's with pots that AA is just as junk as snipe.

To sum it up:

Magus can go after whatever they want to great effect and they don't lose much when fighting higher geared enemies.

Engi you need to pick on lowbies, and squishes, or find a WL / IB to buddy up with.

And to anyone who thinks more WS is the answer. Get on any gutted prdps with 900 ws and try to dent a invader / bloodlord geared melee like a wl / mara or a dok / wp. It's not a fun time at all.

Yup , its the same issue Engie had on live with late tier 4 high armor set gear, the armor values were so high that most engies couldnt do much as far as single target spec, and corp damage ended up being the best alternative, but was still low damage due to resists, and duration of danage ticks, that were easily healed through .

[peterthepan3]

I am curious as to whether or not half of these engineers are even playing their class properly if they genuinely feel that their damage is ****. The class is nuts.

[DirkDaring]

I am curious as to whether or not half of these engineers are even playing their class properly if they genuinely feel that their damage is ****. The class is nuts.

Not sure but to this day , this is still about the Best Engie Vid made .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iH48vYm-8g

[Sulorie]

I am curious as to whether or not half of these engineers are even playing their class properly if they genuinely feel that their damage is ****. The class is nuts.

It is the same with SH players, some complain about high armor values (no, they are not too high) and some just keep killing their enemies. On the forums you only read about the first type.

[Grunbag]

I am curious as to whether or not half of these engineers are even playing their class properly if they genuinely feel that their damage is ****. The class is nuts.

Not sure but to this day , this is still about the Best Engie Vid made .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iH48vYm-8g

This is live engineer version , not ror engineer version where engi are forced to stay near a static pet . And this player had all LOTD broken bonus

[DirkDaring]

I am curious as to whether or not half of these engineers are even playing their class properly if they genuinely feel that their damage is ****. The class is nuts.

Not sure but to this day , this is still about the Best Engie Vid made .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iH48vYm-8g

This is live engineer version , not ror engineer version where engi are forced to stay near a static pet . And this player had all LOTD broken bonus

yea I know this , I also played live , all I stated was that it was about the best engie vid out there , which it is . WTF cares if its from 7 years ago and guy was RR 100 with asorb pocket items from LOTD or not . Doesnt change the fact its a pretty good Vid

I stopped my Engie about 2 years ago , its time for another break from the game, as its no longer fun , atleast for me .

[Tankbeardz]

https://imgur.com/MaZlubm

This is hardly a level 15. this was a 40/50 in almost full conq inside the Praag keep a few minutes ago. Sure it's a squishy and not in BiS gear...but the armor value difference in mitigation between the BiS set and this is not that high. Also, I wasn't using a the 15% damage tactic.

Still think engi is weak and cant hit 3k?