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Kusunoki
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Re: DPS DOK NERF

Post#11 » Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:37 am

Nerf is totally unnecessary!
Yes dps DoK in warband is a thing. As much as WL and SW.
Not anymore for the DoK, transition of this emo class from borderline useful to totally useless and unwanted. Good job on this one, let’s add the 24 AoE cap **** up while we are at it.

Only the narrow minded fail in thinking outside of the box regarding warband compositions.
But this typology of player is to be found plenty on this server.

6v6 dominated by dps DoK? For sure not because fell sacrifice triggered Curse of khaine, or essence lash or devouring essence.
Dps DoK should ea in numbers only if left unchecked during the fight, a good slayer is as dominating
6v6 is single target oriented, pick a primary and secondary, punt tank, stun heal = win.


This hot fix has 0 transparency - 100% Biased - ruining a class and an alternative tactical approach towards warband meta.

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Re: DPS DOK NERF

Post#12 » Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:43 am

Was about time this got nerfed. GG , now fix the 200ft Mara pull pls.
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Re: DPS DOK NERF

Post#13 » Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:47 am

And Simtex: Time to rename your dok to Nerfedbabe. :lol:
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Re: DPS DOK NERF

Post#14 » Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:52 am

Zamoth wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:47 am And Simtex: Time to rename your dok to Nerfedbabe. :lol:
Oh dont you worry, we already have the next thing ready for devs to nerf :)
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Re: DPS DOK NERF

Post#15 » Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:10 am

Kusunoki wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:37 am Nerf is totally unnecessary!
Yes dps DoK in warband is a thing. As much as WL and SW.
Not anymore for the DoK, transition of this emo class from borderline useful to totally useless and unwanted. Good job on this one, let’s add the 24 AoE cap **** up while we are at it.

Only the narrow minded fail in thinking outside of the box regarding warband compositions.
But this typology of player is to be found plenty on this server.

6v6 dominated by dps DoK? For sure not because fell sacrifice triggered Curse of khaine, or essence lash or devouring essence.
Dps DoK should ea in numbers only if left unchecked during the fight, a good slayer is as dominating
6v6 is single target oriented, pick a primary and secondary, punt tank, stun heal = win.


This hot fix has 0 transparency - 100% Biased - ruining a class and an alternative tactical approach towards warband meta.
dps DoK was and is crap choice for warband, same for WL and SW. Sure you can shoot wet noodles, but don't expect to win against anything other than a pile of pugs. Your dmg output is probably 0.5-0.75% of choppas, and Essence Lash being on 5s cd and aoe dot requiring cast time kinda prevent you from applying noticeable continuous dmg pressure in aoe fights. Devour Essence was probably a nice trick for applying hdbuff over potential 150(+10ft radius) range, but might have been slightly too powerful for a mdps, maybe it could apply hdbuff if it was limited to 40-60ft range, but not when over 100ft. Though the ability mirrors somewhat Slayer ID, which is also a pulsating DOT, which they prevented from firing off procs maybe 1-2 years ago. (it probably caused procs to fire on live, but "fixed" here)
Also it is not narrowmindedness, you can always consider niche options, but then you can do math regarding what their expected dmg output is in AoE fights and how they compare to other available classes, which results in classes like Magus (pet dies, dmg drops) and Choppa (barely able to keep up with Sorc dps in close range [9target limit on Lotsa] + high risk) being considered already halfway out of meta classes vs safe picks like Sorc (high dmg at range + close range) and Mara (mediocre-high dmg, high utility) and Zdps (high utility) being way superior pick choices.


They still retain their permanent uptime hdbuff if sticking in meleerange, remaining better than other hdbuff spammers in meleetrains.
Zealot+RP still have a different kind of hdebuff for warband use, whereas DoK is probably closer to the WP hdbuffing potential, which is still certainly inferior.

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Re: DPS DOK NERF

Post#16 » Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:42 am

1. Yup doks HD is still good.
2. When you at it how about "hotfixing" slayers rampage now?

Shitting on all defences you might have. 100%Parry melee M1? 70%parry as a 2h tank? Slayers dont care. Parry and block is nonexistent for them.
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Re: DPS DOK NERF

Post#17 » Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:51 am

Jinxypie wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:42 am 1. Yup doks HD is still good.
2. When you at it how about "hotfixing" slayers rampage now?

Shitting on all defences you might have. 100%Parry melee M1? 70%parry as a 2h tank? Slayers dont care. Parry and block is nonexistent for them.
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Kusunoki
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Re: DPS DOK NERF

Post#18 » Sun Feb 02, 2020 12:01 pm

Aurandilaz, please stop flooding serious posts with your lack of knowledge again and again over the years.
5sec cooldown decrease by chop fastah and more choppin em.
DPS DoK spamming Essence is viable.
DPS DoK casting Devour essence on a tank or backline focusing dps is viable.
DPS DoK casting Fell Sacrifice in a counterfunnel is viable.
Backline/flanking with a dps DoK in a team is viable.




Dps DoK is key component of a serious warband, as a dps zealot. No heal debuff, no pressure. You realize that agains a serious warband - order vs destro - it’s group 40% heal increase vs 50% Heal debuff.
So bitch please.

The ability of a WL and SE to basically teleport onto any target makes it a key component of a serious setup too. As said, narrow minded.


This nerf is literally the worse.

Nerf Engi overpowered M3 please. 2.4k direct dmg + 30 sec armor debuff.
Nerf Slayer rampage please, 20sec ignoring 100% all defenses.
How would you even consider something like that.
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Re: DPS DOK NERF

Post#19 » Sun Feb 02, 2020 12:07 pm

only 10 doks in top 60 ranked, such an unfair nerf, should've waited till only doks in top 10

being serious: dok is still good, even more nerfs wont kill him

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Re: DPS DOK NERF

Post#20 » Sun Feb 02, 2020 12:12 pm

The devs are pro order confirmed !!!!

Big Gg for this hidden nerf great communication !
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