new player in need of some help in my class choice

[Ototo]

Speaking of the future (t4) using my memory of the past:

BlackGuards and SwordMasters require quite a LOT of skill and fast thinking to actually play them. They are NOT tanks really, but u can use them with sword+shields to out-tank.

BG comes down to know when to use Feeding and the many-many-many debuffs it ends having in t4. SM comes down to use the correct rotation with pre-plan to use the full power of the balance-sinergy (in perfect balance all skills cost 0 AP, so u are interested in use the skills so u get to perfect balance without over-abusing Sudden Swift).

U NEED to remember like 15 skills and there are no useless ones in these ones, so get ready to have a hell of keybinds to ur bars around WASD cause u gonna need them as close as possible.

Maras are easy-mode. Monstr mutation and u gonna feel quite a lot tanky. The lack of abilities makes it a spam-buttn class, unless that u decide to specialize in the class and start to switch mutations in the mid of the battles, then it comes to be one of the most challenging classes of the game.

Chosens and KoBS are all about auras and snares, not much more, so once u install the addon "Twister" to circle ur auras, u are pretty much done and both them become spam-button classes.

Warrior-Priests and Disciples of Khaine rocks. Use it as a tanky-DPS, forget completely that it can heal, and just heal urself. It has a LOT of utility in mele tossing randomly AoE heals and buff/debuffing.

[Destinate]

do you want to be the most op melee class in the game with no downsides what so ever? play mara but realize that you WILL be getting the nerf bat

I don't think that the mara is a op melee class because I played him now alot and its rly hard to make a 1 vs 1 (against a tank) I just get killed every time.

[Ototo]

do you want to be the most op melee class in the game with no downsides what so ever? play mara but realize that you WILL be getting the nerf bat

I don't think that the mara is a op melee class because I played him now alot and its rly hard to make a 1 vs 1 (against a tank) I just get killed every time.

Then u arent using the correct rotation, or simply playing bad the full class. Its the most OP class of the full game, close to DoK/WP and Squig/SW, but without an order counter (supposed to be the WL but without autoheal and having a pet that does as it pleases like 75% of the time.......).

There is no way that a Mara, same gear and level, can loose against anything in t1, and will most likely still win against ppl with better gear and level, just usign focusing in long term instead of alpha, letting the Monstr mutation takes its best.

Also dont forget that includes, for free, a weapon in ur mutated arm of ur current level and ¿blue? quality. To see the actual quality check the DPS of it, cause im sure its listed as green in ur character, but the corresponding DPS its higher than a same level green if i recall correctly.

Seriously, if u loose 1vs1, against anything, reroll the class. U are playing it bad. Maras are an "i-win" button.

PS: UNLESS THAT IS UR FIRST CHARACTER IN THE GAME. Then what i said for ur "its not OP" affirmation can be taken out of it. But u will feel it with ur 2nd character eventually.

[Coryphaus]

I don't think that the mara is a op melee class because I played him now alot and its rly hard to make a 1 vs 1 (against a tank) I just get killed every time.

Firstly i want to say that to the above poster that mara is not op...you are wrong plain and simple, maras are the single most overpowered class in t4 a melee class with soo much utlity and the surviveablity and tankyness of an off class tank, a class with absolutly no downsides, the class was just too good and you can ask any of the more experienced and skilled players on this fourm and they will vouch my assessment.

you were getting wrecked by tanks? you should have spec'd savgery and gotten that undefendable melee attack that burns 1000 armor that let you blow up tanks


now to the other poster claiming that maras can face roll in t1 with monstro....that is a lie; in t1 mara is acctually balanced, on a fully high geared mara you only have 99 toughness with monstro mutation, the class des not get its suriveablity and utlity abilites till t2

[Ototo]

The best of that mutation, as i stated time and again, and it comes since t1, is the debuffs and ailings. Having just a shadow of its later utility, its still the single most utility MDPS in t1, but can be argued that a WE/WH that choose wisely when to switch Kiss/Bullets in the fight has more utility in t1, whr healers are that much OP, but thats purely based in skill.

The tough itself its few as u say, till u can get use of the tactic in the Monstr tree.

I just want u to name a MDPS class that has more gadgets, including autoheal, in t1. U cant. Even more than RDPSs. And can Charge.

If u use the correct tool for the correct task its not a matter of skill, but of pure wise choice.

I bet u that a Mara can beat any other class in t1 and up to t4 in a 1vs1 duel reasonabily balanced in level and gear.

[Tesq]

guys you musy stop make fell ppl like playing mara will be like being god in t4, Piercing Bite tactic was bugged on official ( alway ignored 50% of armor), this is lukyly what will not be here.
Also there were other skill bugged on official and im not talk only about mara/slayer.
Also it's not like destru players (exept magus ) had problem find a place in any premade, unless they weren't good, so play what you like and know it well.

[amputationsaw]

To be honest, I see so many chosens (3rd most picked class in RoR) and maras (indeed a simple demolition spammer )
If you think over it, play a ordo meele, tank, because we lack so much of it

[Coryphaus]

first perhaps you should speak to your other realm mates and ask them why they are incapable of playing anything but healers and rdps

[Ototo]

first perhaps you should speak to your other realm mates and ask them why they are incapable of playing anything but healers and rdps

I play mostly Tanks, out-tanks and MDPSs. Currently have a KoBS, SM and WP (NOT a healer, i heal myself), and WH and Slayer, respectively. Also a BW and an AM, but i dont enjoy them too much, too OP.

Ask in ur realm why there are so many Chosens, Shammies and Sorcs. In t1 those 3 are pure cheese no matter the situation, being it group or 1vs1.... Hell yeah, even 3vs1 can be good for a Shammy. Diff is that Chosens keep being cheese all the game long cause its just pure easy-mode. Install Twister and all is done, but i have to admit that i do also... Cheese can be tasty

[Tesq]

first perhaps you should speak to your other realm mates and ask them why they are incapable of playing anything but healers and rdps

I play mostly Tanks, out-tanks and MDPSs. Currently have a KoBS, SM and WP (NOT a healer, i heal myself), and WH and Slayer, respectively. Also a BW and an AM, but i dont enjoy them too much, too OP.

Ask in ur realm why there are so many Chosens, Shammies and Sorcs. In t1 those 3 are pure cheese no matter the situation, being it group or 1vs1.... Hell yeah, even 3vs1 can be good for a Shammy. Diff is that Chosens keep being cheese all the game long cause its just pure easy-mode. Install Twister and all is done, but i have to admit that i do also... Cheese can be tasty

ahahah chosen cheese easy mode!!! ask you kobs!!!! ahahahahaah

kobs>>>>>>chosen

sy i cannot belive your when kobs have self-de-active knockback while target it's over immunites....
maybe you should think better what is cheesy and easy to play mister 50% damage reduction no removable, kobs player.