Can you parry with sword and shield?

[mubbl]

that's inaccurate. u can block AND parry guard damage and on parry u have a flat +25% against guard damage due to guard mechanics and parry formula. the avoidence work like: u receive an attack from the front (u cant parry/block attack from behinde), the game decide if u blocked the attack, if u block u receive zero damage, if u dont block the game decide if u parry/dodge/disrupt the attack. so if for example u have 20% block and 50% parry and u receive 100 melee attack then u will block 20 of these, of the remaining 80 the half will be parried and thus your melee avoidence is 60% since u will receive only 40 attack of original 100.

this one!

[blechkautz]

Which is unrelated to my post cause was in the original post I refer to. I just pointed out that the statement that you only parry mele attacks is not true: you parry mele attacks, guard attacks, and some specific skills tagged for it like Terrible Embrace that are exceptions. It's not even assured that you can parry a mele attack as some of the mele skills of ranged classes are tagged to dodge it.

The marked part above is the wrong part as Ysaran pointed out, so it's not unrelated to your post, where you hand out false information.

Nope. You have a flat 25% parry to your guard, which is exactly what I said. The rest is in the post that I refer to, as I said.

Maybe you should test it yourself before you claim it, but a while ago hogun made a test ( viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31055 ), in which he tried to claim, that pure parry is better for guarddmg avoidance than block + parry (not true, but the test shows his avoidance of guarddmg).

[Ototo]

The marked part above is the wrong part as Ysaran pointed out, so it's not unrelated to your post, where you hand out false information.

Nope. You have a flat 25% parry to your guard, which is exactly what I said. The rest is in the post that I refer to, as I said.

Maybe you should test it yourself before you claim it, but a while ago hogun made a test ( viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31055 ), in which he tried to claim, that pure parry is better for guarddmg avoidance than block + parry (not true, but the test shows his avoidance of guarddmg).

At any point I spoke of block. The refute to that thread was made here by the dev team and not in the thread that you link.

[blechkautz]

Nope. You have a flat 25% parry to your guard, which is exactly what I said. The rest is in the post that I refer to, as I said.

Maybe you should test it yourself before you claim it, but a while ago hogun made a test ( viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31055 ), in which he tried to claim, that pure parry is better for guarddmg avoidance than block + parry (not true, but the test shows his avoidance of guarddmg).

At any point I spoke of block. The refute to that thread was made here by the dev team and not in the thread that you link.

Maybe read the thread you linked? Weaponskill gives you 25% parry for the sake of guard, but overall the cap to parry guard is 75%

[Ototo]

Maybe you should test it yourself before you claim it, but a while ago hogun made a test ( viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31055 ), in which he tried to claim, that pure parry is better for guarddmg avoidance than block + parry (not true, but the test shows his avoidance of guarddmg).

At any point I spoke of block. The refute to that thread was made here by the dev team and not in the thread that you link.

Maybe read the thread you linked? Weaponskill gives you 25% parry for the sake of guard, but overall the cap to parry guard is 75%

That is not what the thread says. Here is said:
4 WS gives you 25% parry which is hardcapped to 25% for the sake of guard.

Unless that "hardcapped" means something different for our former community manager, that is exactly what I said.

[Ysaran]

I may have misunderstood what you were trying to say, anyway what I wrote is the proper behaviour of avoidence

[blechkautz]

At any point I spoke of block. The refute to that thread was made here by the dev team and not in the thread that you link.

Maybe read the thread you linked? Weaponskill gives you 25% parry for the sake of guard, but overall the cap to parry guard is 75%

That is not what the thread says. Here is said:
4 WS gives you 25% parry which is hardcapped to 25% for the sake of guard.

Unless that "hardcapped" means something different for our former community manager, that is exactly what I said.

"But if we talk about WS and Guard, then:
4 WS gives you 25% parry which is hardcapped to 25% for the sake of guard. Everyone has more than 4 WS so everyone has the 25% parry bonus for guard and just so it's over abundantly clear, this applies for both SnB and 2H. so it doesn't matter weather you have 4 WS or 600 WS in case of guard. You will always have that 25% as long as you have 4 WS."
Which means, you get 25% parry from your WS as long as you have 4 WS and not more. He didn't mention any other source of parry. But as you can see here it's not capped at 25%.

[jhwieser]

At any point I spoke of block. The refute to that thread was made here by the dev team and not in the thread that you link.

Maybe read the thread you linked? Weaponskill gives you 25% parry for the sake of guard, but overall the cap to parry guard is 75%

That is not what the thread says. Here is said:
4 WS gives you 25% parry which is hardcapped to 25% for the sake of guard.

Unless that "hardcapped" means something different for our former community manager, that is exactly what I said.

I believe that 25% "hardcap" is related to the parry bonus from weaponskill specifically. 75% parry is the max. So one example you could have 25% from WS, 10% from items, and 10% from a tactic, 15% from an 10s duration ability, total 60% parry (that means guarded damage as well).

Outside of guard your parry would be X% from weaponskill (higher than 25% possibly), + 10% items + 10% from a tactic + 15% from ability that may have you reach 75%.