bring back T2 and T3

[zak68]

or are you going to split the server ?

[Koro]

Well it's like most people say here - so what there's some new players around (me among them) soon we'll hit 40 and roll some pvp... I'm pretty sure any de-merge would result in empty zones very soon.

For separate T2-T3 to work it would require some custom solution to somehow keep those brackets alive ALL the time and not just for 1-2 months when bunch of folks decided to raid the server. What custom solution? I have no idea. Maybe someone else has? Otherwise it's better to keep it as it is.

[M0rw47h]

Just make T2 zones for players 16-39 would be enought, and players who are 16+ can still join T3-T4 zones.

I've propsed than once upon a time myself, but it's awful idea.
Right now, you have to level up to 16 and then you can play with your guild on lowbie alts during more casual runs. Making separate T2 would make that impossible.

[Torintinhammer]

Agree with OP.

Just came back and was gobsmacked to learn T2 thru T4 were merged. Here are some points to consider. Note: These all start with IMO.

The separation between 20-30 compared to 30-40+. 20-30 you are making the character. 30 and above you are refining it.

Having a real T2 was nice for training newbies on how to do keep sieges without twinked 40/80's around at a completely different skill level.

T2 is a good place to learn the basics of PvP beyond the "kid soccer mob" in T1. Positioning a team play become more important.

How fun is it for a new player to finish T1 and then get thrown to the wolves in T2? A solid T2 is good for retention.

Again, just my opinion.

[StrongUn]

Yeah, let lowbies play and fight versus lowbies!

1-15
16-30
31-39
40

T2 through T4 are merged. What that means is that you fight in T1 from levels 1-15. Once you hit level 16 you can fight in any of the T2-T4 zones that are open (and are bolstered to level 48 when you do so you can compete against level 40 players).

New players with bad gear,
without talisman,
missing skills/tactics,
game knowledge
...

versus experienced 40/80 players in full sovereign/warlord? i doubt it

[Sulorie]

T2 through T4 are merged. What that means is that you fight in T1 from levels 1-15. Once you hit level 16 you can fight in any of the T2-T4 zones that are open (and are bolstered to level 48 when you do so you can compete against level 40 players).

New players with bad gear,
without talisman,
missing skills/tactics,
game knowledge
...

versus experienced 40/80 players in full sovereign/warlord? i doubt it

You are supposed to use talismans from T1 onward, because gear has talisman slots. There is no reason to skip crafting system or trading with other players, because it's T1.
When do you think people will magically know those things?
We see exactly such kind of player in T4 sc, neither talismans nor potions.
They apparently never had the need to use core elements of the game, while playing in level brackets, where you have to learn those things.

Having bad gear is no reason to make the game easier for certain players. It is a reason for them to ask how to get better items.
When you die 6 times in one sc, you do something wrong.
Dying is no big issue, the question is, did you learn something in order to do it better next time?
It's about the mindset of a player. You don't develop game knowledge by playing easy games, where all are equally bad.
We can create a rainbow pony land for everyone, where both sides make fundamental mistakes and nobody plays better, so both sides stay equal in power. This does not prepare anyone for T4.

[Wdova]

when there are almost 3000 ppl on the server, maybe we should split the campaign between T2 and T3 again, as it was in the original game
upgrade on server give us almost nothing, lag still is and will be even bigger when all this ppl from t1 jump right into t4 fight

No offense, but what are you gonna propose monday or tuesday when x2 will end and all those Pre T2+ players will be 32+? limit Tiers 4 to 40 only? Slice tiers per ranks :p ? Slow overall progression (after how many years of complains about a toooooo slowwwww progression) ?

If there are 2k+ ppl and if they all stay, there will be a moment where they will be in T4. In a manner or another, and it is a matter of days. I'm not sure re-introducing T2-3 gonna change anything in an quite short term. Moving back would take more time to deploy than the time those players are gonna take to reach 40 in the next days.

So what solution we have since 3500+ ppl online is just unplayable in T4? Zones and server crashing. Ppl are unable to move from zone to another etc? Is there any real solution to this? Limit population to 2000 and make the que line?....

[cheepcheep]

Please make T2 the same as T1

And merge T3 - T4

[Funeral]

New player here, so I don't understand everything clearly, but would it be possible to do separate T2 T3 Scenarios tiers and then leave oRvR merged T2-T4? That would give players the chance to practice in T2 and T3 Scenarios against players with equivalent skill sets and gear, but keep oRvR popping for the 40/40+ players

[Sulorie]

New player here, so I don't understand everything clearly, but would it be possible to do separate T2 T3 Scenarios tiers and then leave oRvR merged T2-T4? That would give players the chance to practice in T2 and T3 Scenarios against players with equivalent skill sets and gear, but keep oRvR popping for the 40/40+ players

There are hardly any gear gaps in T2-3.
What I have seen yesterday, that many people leaving T1 think they have ok-ish gear but in fact, their gear is pretty low for their rank, as they don't know where to buy appropriate gear. E.g. lvl 18 Archmage with Decimator set and many other T1 items up to 10 ranks lower.
This leads to the problem, that the bolster in sc isn't as effective as it could be. Additionally, all those who do a lot pve (pq, quest and just killing mobs) have usually pretty poor gear.

Lower ranked chars have less skills, true but they have stronger skills, as their effect is bolstered as well. Every buff skill, even without spending points in a mastery tree, has a bigger value than later, unless you spend points on it.