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CaseUk
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Can't get to grips with healing in RoR.

Post#1 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:32 pm

I'm a long time WoW healer. I have a zealot and shaman around level 16 trying to decide which one I like, Shaman vibe is cooler but the whole 'use offensive spells to enhance your healing' is not how I want to play.

Anyway my real issue is I can't seem to get to grips with the UI and healing. The way most UIs on wow behave is it shows your team, if they are in range and in LoS then it's lit, as soon as they are not it greys out.

As per the advice channels recommendation I got the enemy addon, and it's so janky! it has these tiny dots at the top to show range, some people are greyed out, some are lit but when you click on them they grey out. I find myself cycling through people just trying to find someone who's in range and in LoS and each person I click on instantly greys out. And since hitting 16 and everyone's now absolutely ruining me I don't have time to mess about (which feels awful by the way, I don't think I should be put vs high 30's as a level 16 even with this scaling that doesn't seem to help at all).

Is there some way I can just make it behave like that typical wow UI like this: https://blizzardwatch.com/wp-content/up ... frames.jpg where it's really simple and if someone is lit I know I can click on them and heal them?

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Re: Can't get to grips with healing in RoR.

Post#2 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:10 pm

I'm not too familiar with all the addons out there for healers, but two others I've heard mentioned are HealGrid and Squared. Both can be found at Idrinth's Tools. I think that there are other addons that further modify those two, so poke around on that site and see if they are more to your liking.

I do agree with you though, whenever I play a healer in a warband I feel like a one legged man in an ass-kicking contest, way too busy to get the job done properly. :P
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Re: Can't get to grips with healing in RoR.

Post#3 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:15 pm

LOS will always be an issue. To my knowledge the addon API can't determine LOS between you and another player unless that player is targeted which is why things grey out when you click on them. You actually have to pay attention to the fights going on around you to determine who is visible and position yourself accordingly if you see people going out of LOS. You want to get used to the warband unit frames being a thing you keep track of in the corner of your eye :)

I believe there is an option in enemy to replace the range dots with numbers. Enemy has a LOT of options to configure how it looks and it will take some time to get it how you want it. Here are some other threads to get you going on configuring Enemy:

viewtopic.php?f=66&t=38887
viewtopic.php?f=66&t=24648
viewtopic.php?f=66&t=18613

BTW Zealot and Shaman both have traditional pure ranged heal specs so don't be fooled by thinking the Shaman is only a lifetap class.
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Re: Can't get to grips with healing in RoR.

Post#4 » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:09 am

Shaman is much more fun but harder to play and heal super good than zealot, but shaman has 24 seconds life steal dot, 80 feet range aoe dps/aoe heal 5 sec cooldown, and il take that. You can use heal on all these skills for out of los players because they are dps first heal second. Enemy addon must have, i would go with shaman for fun. ive loved shammy always one of the funnest class to play. Zealot and dok healing is boring.

RoR.builders - Shaman

There is good heal spec for rank 40 rr40. Get your chance to be crit to 0 / iniative to 230+ etc. Aways use wounds or armour talismans, heal, ap,armour and 20%health rege 10% less crit dmg potion when you are lvl 40. Its very good survivability with aoe detaunt tactic.
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Re: Can't get to grips with healing in RoR.

Post#5 » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:15 am

you can try this viewtopic.php?f=66&t=24648
a really good guide on setting up your UI/addon to accommodate being a healer in RoR.
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Re: Can't get to grips with healing in RoR.

Post#6 » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:33 am

Get both to 20, the group heal changes the healing dynamic somewhat

And try to keep your gear close to your level, 3 piece healer set is from rvr with requirements of lvl15, 16 and 17, should get enough medallions doing a couple of sieges (the scenario set is dmg spec), also look for cheap wounds talismans on the auction, should help your survivability a bit (I know cheap is really relative to a new player so might have to get these as you can)

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Re: Can't get to grips with healing in RoR.

Post#7 » Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:43 pm

Sinisterror wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:09 am Shaman is much more fun but harder to play and heal super good than zealot, but shaman has 24 seconds life steal dot, 80 feet range aoe dps/aoe heal 5 sec cooldown, and il take that. You can use heal on all these skills for out of los players because they are dps first heal second. Enemy addon must have, i would go with shaman for fun. ive loved shammy always one of the funnest class to play. Zealot and dok healing is boring.

RoR.builders - Shaman

There is good heal spec for rank 40 rr40. Get your chance to be crit to 0 / iniative to 230+ etc. Aways use wounds or armour talismans, heal, ap,armour and 20%health rege 10% less crit dmg potion when you are lvl 40. Its very good survivability with aoe detaunt tactic.
No offense but that build is pretty bad.

For one, Discipline has been shown to outperform ESM in some cases, leaving that off the bar is going to drag down healing quite a lot. (search forum for test) Ignoring Do Sumfin Useful is going to be a big problem. Especially with the WL/SM/SW meta-blast going on right now. That extra hot rolling on you with toughness boost is going to make a lot of difference. Also Do Sumfin ticks much faster than your other hots, making it the first one you should cast on yourself before/during any encounter.

In bigger fights, Restorative Burst combined with Discipline and ESM, and when used with Focused Mind and Gather Round is going to put out massive heals every 60 seconds that can change the tide of battle, and bump you up significantly on the healing charts. Toss out Yer Not So Bad, and you can literally spam gather round at a super high rate of speed in situations where it founds. (especially cities). The final tactics should be swapped out between Dat Makes me Dizzy (city) and Wazzat depending on circumstances. Double morale pump isn't all that useful anymore due to the morale dump nerf and SW morale soaking spam....

Just my opinion.

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Re: Can't get to grips with healing in RoR.

Post#8 » Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:10 pm

i give the ENEMY addon a try, healgrid causes massive lag for me in orvr and u can config heal-on-left-click. U can set a spell so that it is cast as soon as u click a player in the group window.

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Re: Can't get to grips with healing in RoR.

Post#9 » Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:32 pm

I use enemy for my healers but ya los is an issue and i only run enemy on my healers because it also causes a bit of lag. Basically every add-on more I put on characters the more lag I get so I try to use as few as possible.

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Re: Can't get to grips with healing in RoR.

Post#10 » Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:19 am

CaseUk wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:32 pm I'm a long time WoW healer. I have a zealot and shaman around level 16 trying to decide which one I like, Shaman vibe is cooler but the whole 'use offensive spells to enhance your healing' is not how I want to play.

Anyway my real issue is I can't seem to get to grips with the UI and healing. The way most UIs on wow behave is it shows your team, if they are in range and in LoS then it's lit, as soon as they are not it greys out.

As per the advice channels recommendation I got the enemy addon, and it's so janky! it has these tiny dots at the top to show range, some people are greyed out, some are lit but when you click on them they grey out. I find myself cycling through people just trying to find someone who's in range and in LoS and each person I click on instantly greys out. And since hitting 16 and everyone's now absolutely ruining me I don't have time to mess about (which feels awful by the way, I don't think I should be put vs high 30's as a level 16 even with this scaling that doesn't seem to help at all).

Is there some way I can just make it behave like that typical wow UI like this: https://blizzardwatch.com/wp-content/up ... frames.jpg where it's really simple and if someone is lit I know I can click on them and heal them?

An endgame Zealot/Shaman will feel more like a WoW Priest. Right now you simply do not have all your abilities which is why the class feels so chaotic. That being said, doing damage to do heals is viable, but it is considered hybrid healing and comes at a cost of overall less healing. Its unfortunate, but to maximize your heals, just heal and disregard the shaman damage/heal mechanic altogether.

As others have already mentioned, try healgrid. Also try squared (the last time I used it it was buggy as hell though, but I loved it). Also, I would still retry enemy later as you can program it far more extensively than healgrid. Im a huge fan of enemy's "cast on click" and programming to appear very specific buffs/debuffs on my target.
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