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Sulorie
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Re: Patch Notes 15/07/2020

Post#21 » Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:58 am

cursedflesh wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:33 am


you mean conditional +1 attack you can parry/block? oh how dare that char without aoe can have strong single target dmg ... lol ...
They already had strong single target dmg in melee spec. What else do you want?
The intention was to buff range sw spec, not buff melee, which was fine.
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cursedflesh
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Re: Patch Notes 15/07/2020

Post#22 » Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:02 pm

Sulorie wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:58 am
cursedflesh wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:33 am


you mean conditional +1 attack you can parry/block? oh how dare that char without aoe can have strong single target dmg ... lol ...
They already had strong single target dmg in melee spec. What else do you want?
The intention was to buff range sw spec, not buff melee, which was fine.

yeah and melee is nerfed hard now when crosscut is physical dmg, no way to deal with heavy armored targets and marauders now
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Thorelson
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Re: Patch Notes 15/07/2020

Post#23 » Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:15 pm

Sulorie wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:58 am
cursedflesh wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:33 am


you mean conditional +1 attack you can parry/block? oh how dare that char without aoe can have strong single target dmg ... lol ...
They already had strong single target dmg in melee spec. What else do you want?
The intention was to buff range sw spec, not buff melee, which was fine.
I agree crosscut was OP since the last patch. However, in rolling back the changes they have rolled it back to a worse performance that prior to that patch. That is the issue here.

anarchypark
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Re: Patch Notes 15/07/2020

Post#24 » Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:16 pm

you think buff is only coming from dmg up? it's not that simple.
sw buff is related to VoN, steady aim and synergy. like many other classes.

since you're cherrypicking worst cases, i'll do same with best cases.
few days ago i did new record of fester shot in city. 3.3k against SH
that was from steady aim, forgot if i had VoN or not.
done some fort funnel as skirmisher with barrage + WW.
i can assure you that glass arrow dmg on this combo was OP and balanced correctly.
cuz aoe dmg was enough without GA.
like all dot class, cleans is issue but healers don't have time to cleans at funnel push.
at that time you should have stack of BA + FA + SS on targets previously.
add barrage dmg on that. it's timestamp burst.
keep spreading aoe dots after cleans and cleans. steal healer's gcd.
LA 5s cd is something to look. but that's for balance forum.

ASW introducing crosscut was +5 buff. 3 cut was +5 buff. just now got -5 nerf.
so it's still +5 buff. use VoN.
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BG7, Sorc6, DoK7, WE7, Cs7, Mg7, Ze6, Mara6, BO4, SH4, Shm5, Chop3
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agemennon675
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Re: Patch Notes 15/07/2020

Post#25 » Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:21 pm

anarchypark wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:16 pm
you think buff is only coming from dmg up? it's not that simple.
sw buff is related to VoN, steady aim and synergy. like many other classes.

since you're cherrypicking worst cases, i'll do same with best cases.
few days ago i did new record of fester shot in city. 3.3k against SH
that was from steady aim, forgot if i had VoN or not.
done some fort funnel as skirmisher with barrage + WW.
i can assure you that glass arrow dmg on this combo was OP and balanced correctly.
cuz aoe dmg was enough without GA.
like all dot class, cleans is issue but healers don't have time to cleans at funnel push.
at that time you should have stack of BA + FA + SS on targets previously.
add barrage dmg on that. it's timestamp burst.
keep spreading aoe dots after cleans and cleans. steal healer's gcd.
LA 5s cd is something to look. but that's for balance forum.

ASW introducing crosscut was +5 buff. 3 cut was +5 buff. just now got -5 nerf.
so it's still +5 buff. use VoN.
You now have old crosscut only in VoN, its now physical without it

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samanoVI
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Re: Patch Notes 15/07/2020

Post#26 » Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:55 pm

So why do the devs show favouritism towards Destro? And why do the devs have this strange focus on nerfing Shadow Warriors in particular. The population gap is getting larger and larger in favour of destro it seems, due to people switching sides cause of OVERALL better class balance on destro.
Devs, what incentives do I have to play a SW at end game when warbands dont have a use for you/strongly prefer to not take you?

sogeou
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Re: Patch Notes 15/07/2020

Post#27 » Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:30 pm

Sulorie wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:23 am
squiggastolemybike wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:18 am
... MSW damage was already pretty modest compared to Sov WE with her casual 2k backstabs ...
Where you find those mysterious 2k backstabs?
AW does 1600-1700 without masterful trech, add in that damage bonus = almost 2k or 1970's+. You must be running blood lord slow weapon plus a gear set to get 280 bonus damage, along with a full spec in tree.

anarchypark
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Re: Patch Notes 15/07/2020

Post#28 » Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:01 pm

agemennon675 wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:21 pm

You now have old crosscut only in VoN, its now physical without it
yea old crosscut was somewhat OP. now VoN act as conditional. i would call that's balanced.
SM8, SW8, AM8, WL5, KoBS5, BW4, WP8, WH5, IB5, EG4, RP4, SL5
BG7, Sorc6, DoK7, WE7, Cs7, Mg7, Ze6, Mara6, BO4, SH4, Shm5, Chop3
SC summary - viewtopic.php?f=8&t=20415
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Re: Patch Notes 15/07/2020

Post#29 » Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:03 pm

Year 2034, still waiting for Ranged Squig Herder rework.

Feomatar1
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Re: Patch Notes 15/07/2020

Post#30 » Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:17 pm

Ahahah, ok, asw now dead as **** for 100% and 4 ever... Lol, nerfing worst melee spec in the game its hilarious X D
City - not for asw, sc asw is worst melee here 2, roaming - noup, your "mobility" abilitiest doesnt work on moving targets at all and now he have no damage AND no burst with **** high ap costs, 6v6 - NOW its useless even on it... I think i delete my sw, this class is cursed.
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