Please Fix AOE

[Lyability]

As a healer i can guarantee you that all these order engies, bws and shadowwarriors are dropping like flies on the keep walls. I know because i have to rezz the countless bodies over and over.

As an engie I will confess: I die a lot. I have.... ahem..... distance issues and have to fully expose myself to use any abilities and I usually come up short and dead before I bust a grenade.

Good news though!! I am almost in t3 gear so I should start only dying mostly occasionally.

[uberchaoslord]

I agree with this and haven't been on in more than a week because I don't think the devs seem to be concerned about balance. mDPS AOE got a balance with slayers getting buffed to help complete with destro, but the ranged superiority doesn't seem to be a concern.

And arguments about FMJ are basically useless. Unless you're in a comparably geared and organized guild, groups like that melting your face aren't valid, since their gear is so much greater than most. I guess as a fairly new player, (although I have a full Invader DoK, a vanq magus) their doesn't seem to be any concern about that sentiment.

[Gurf]

I agree with this and haven't been on in more than a week because I don't think the devs seem to be concerned about balance. mDPS AOE got a balance with slayers getting buffed to help complete with destro, but the ranged superiority doesn't seem to be a concern.

And arguments about FMJ are basically useless. Unless you're in a comparably geared and organized guild, groups like that melting your face aren't valid, since their gear is so much greater than most. I guess as a fairly new player, (although I have a full Invader DoK, a vanq magus) their doesn't seem to be any concern about that sentiment.

How did Slayers get buffed?

Its more about numbers of ranged than anything, Order have far more players who play the ranged classes, so they usually loose scenarios due to lack of a front line and Cities due to Cities favouring melee, but have more ranged for keeps and Forts.

[Acidic]

How did Slayers get buffed?

They got an indirect buff due to the nerf on moral stacking. Basically this moved the meta towards classes that did not rely on morals.

[CountTalabecland]

I hate the RDPS spam on Order but the reason that they are in those forts and keeps is because GTDC is so strong in the field that Order just dies in a head to head match up. So if you are looking for blame then look at how much the meta changed when new GTDC and MSH pounce were introduced.

GTDC doesnt work when pushing fort doors so Destro falls apart. Morale pushes are still more than enough to clear the Order Pugbands but destro needs to be more efficient in pushing deep before dropping morales. I can sit my WP about 40 ft back from the door and be confident that 9/10 tanks/MDPS will drop their morales before they reach me.

PS: If you are dying to SW then you are just bad. Its still a garbage class played by legolad wannabes doing sad damage compared to Slayer/BW/WL.

[uberchaoslord]

I agree that the balance needs to happen in mDPS too, I'm not just whining about ranged being OP - it's absolutely right that both needed balance. However now that order are winning more cities, because they're taking 4 slayers and at least competing in melee range, there needs to be a balance at ranged, and there simply isn't right now.

[Gurf]

I agree that the balance needs to happen in mDPS too, I'm not just whining about ranged being OP - it's absolutely right that both needed balance. However now that order are winning more cities, because they're taking 4 slayers and at least competing in melee range, there needs to be a balance at ranged, and there simply isn't right now.

So after 6 months of Order being farmed at City they were forced to roll more City friendly classes in order to compete. Now Des are having problems at Forts instead of doing the same you expect the Dev's to come fix it for you.

[TenaciousBuf]

I hate the RDPS spam on Order but the reason that they are in those forts and keeps is because GTDC is so strong in the field that Order just dies in a head to head match up. So if you are looking for blame then look at how much the meta changed when new GTDC and MSH pounce were introduced.

GTDC doesnt work when pushing fort doors so Destro falls apart. Morale pushes are still more than enough to clear the Order Pugbands but destro needs to be more efficient in pushing deep before dropping morales. I can sit my WP about 40 ft back from the door and be confident that 9/10 tanks/MDPS will drop their morales before they reach me.

PS: If you are dying to SW then you are just bad. Its still a garbage class played by legolad wannabes doing sad damage compared to Slayer/BW/WL.

GTDC is meta change? You must be joking. Order does not die in head to head match due to GTDC because fluff damage dies not kill and any good choppa will not be using it in head to head match which will be just stupid for cc immunity. And common you really think destro cant win a push because of poor morale drop? Every WB? I would not be so confident. AOE is this game is broken 100%.

[Rasenmeister]

now this game only for order players.
at least 2 month destro take empty forts.
Yesterday was classic - 3 forts - no one win by destro. Killstats - BW and other order classes
And order take destro forts easy - on first or second push. I remember only one def in maw - and order have real bad wbs.

so, i have question - what reason fight on destro in forts?

[Gurf]

Order only take Destro forts when they are organised, ie have 3-4 balanced warbands, the last 2 Forts I have been in last few days Order have failed as it has been mostly pug groups. When I see the Destro players in Forts (and many in the lakes) most are just concerned with ganking, getting their own kills, a bunch of dps Shammy and WE are not going to help you push in and take the lord room.