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Clux
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Re: Patch Notes 23/10/2020

Post#71 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:23 pm

Kobs also has way better utility and defense over Chosen... why do you balance the dmg but not the other Aspects of those mirror classes? Your balancing changes obviously look super subjective.

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nat3s
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Re: Patch Notes 23/10/2020

Post#72 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:54 pm

Ok just tested it, WL pet damage is stomptastically good again, 600 crit through 3200 armour.

May our WL overlords rule once more. What was that, 1 patch where they were balanced?
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Sundowner
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Re: Patch Notes 23/10/2020

Post#73 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:01 pm

nat3s wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:54 pm Ok just tested it, WL pet damage is stomptastically good again, 600 crit through 3200 armour.

May our WL overlords rule once more. What was that, 1 patch where they were balanced?
Interesting, my lion critted armor debuffed choppa for 300. Also only crit chance has been increased, not crit amount (most wl items do not have crit damage increaser)
Last edited by Sundowner on Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:03 pm, edited 4 times in total.

Alucard2010
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Re: Patch Notes 23/10/2020

Post#74 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:01 pm

Clux, chosen still has Daemonclaw +str +ws tactic and Opressing blows +15% crit r.... Not to mention the chosen's better damage coefficients AND we cant get the same crazy parry #'s of a chosen. Knight literally has nothing now to do any meaningful dmg/pressure. The thought here is that knights are expected to be physical dmg bruisers now, but we have zero WS given on any of our sets, we have the gimped version of runefang +tough+ini, can't stack near the parry mitigation of a chosen, we dont get a +15% crit r tactic (we have to use a GCD to apply a debuff that can be parried/blocked to get +10% which also uses a tactic slot), but thank god we now have heavens fury to spam over WBs for free immunities but its elemental dmg so woooo. Mighty Souls con was +15% dmg taken from all sources - Chosen con was -20% healing ...one of these scales MUCH worse in WB & solo play...this patch is terrible.

nat3s
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Re: Patch Notes 23/10/2020

Post#75 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:03 pm

Sundowner wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:01 pm
nat3s wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:54 pm Ok just tested it, WL pet damage is stomptastically good again, 600 crit through 3200 armour.

May our WL overlords rule once more. What was that, 1 patch where they were balanced?
Interesting, my lion critted armor debuffed choppa for 300

Brutal Pounce hitting like a truck. Bunch of WL out solo :|.

Was WL really in a bad spot that it needed this attention? They get so much love. If anything WL needed the Chosen treatment.
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sogeou
Posts: 413

Re: Patch Notes 23/10/2020

Post#76 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:07 pm

vanbuinen77 wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:06 pm
sogeou wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:45 pm
TenTonHammer wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:41 pm

Imagine justifying this by citing solo roaming 1v1 like that even matters over group or WB play? Defttard tanks can win 1v1's by being unkillable should we nerf that next?
You were talking about SM vs Chosen. Talking about how sick SM damage is. I am pointing out how OP chosen were and two equal geared people fighting is not even close. Damage 2h chosen needed a huge nerf because how much damage they can do and how tanky they can be.
The chosen was setup for soloing, you were not.
Plus it looks like you are not a good solo player.

That is not me and all Chosen are setup for lol dps lol. Get real dude. Nerf was needed. Now they can go back to being tanks and not lol dps.

sogeou
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Re: Patch Notes 23/10/2020

Post#77 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:09 pm

nat3s wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:03 pm
Brutal Pounce hitting like a truck. Bunch of WL out solo :|.

Was WL really in a bad spot that it needed this attention? They get so much love. If anything WL needed the Chosen treatment.
My guy you are lying I just did DPS test base damage went up 20 base damage with full points of str from RR's. With the crit tactic the move picked up an extra 40 damage. Not sure how an extra 40 damage on a move is hitting like a truck.

Sundowner
Posts: 468

Re: Patch Notes 23/10/2020

Post#78 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:18 pm

sogeou wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:09 pm
nat3s wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:03 pm
Brutal Pounce hitting like a truck. Bunch of WL out solo :|.

Was WL really in a bad spot that it needed this attention? They get so much love. If anything WL needed the Chosen treatment.
My guy you are lying I just did DPS test base damage went up 20 base damage with full points of str from RR's. With the crit tactic the move picked up an extra 40 damage. Not sure how an extra 40 damage on a move is hitting like a truck.
destr lying about wl dmg is new lvl of forum warriors

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Gurf
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Re: Patch Notes 23/10/2020

Post#79 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:23 pm

nat3s wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:03 pm
Sundowner wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:01 pm
nat3s wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:54 pm Ok just tested it, WL pet damage is stomptastically good again, 600 crit through 3200 armour.

May our WL overlords rule once more. What was that, 1 patch where they were balanced?
Interesting, my lion critted armor debuffed choppa for 300

Brutal Pounce hitting like a truck. Bunch of WL out solo :|.

Was WL really in a bad spot that it needed this attention? They get so much love. If anything WL needed the Chosen treatment.
WL was nerfed in about 3 successive patches, you not noticed? I have just tested mine and its not a huge amount better now for damage nothing like you are suggesting, the main difference I am hoping is survivability of Lion so it wont get crit for ridiculous amounts by aoe, which gives WL more build options if Lion can stay alive.

Alucard2010
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Re: Patch Notes 23/10/2020

Post#80 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:29 pm

Guardian Lion is going to wreck face once again in small scale orvr. More engies/magus in forts/keeps. KOTBS (not so much Chosen - they still have daemon claw, more abilities that do spirit dmg, high dmg coefficients, and oppressing blows) DPS has been nerfed into the dirt. More PvE fixes. 10/23 patch in a nutshell.

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