Do you want to stay in r1-r39 bracket forever?

[dwar]

where is the option for enjoying it as long as it lasts ...

[penagos22]

let's think guys, if I want to have fun in r40 + I must play with one of the viable specializations, then we are all going to end up playing an aoe slayer for example but what about the person who wants to play slayer in another way there is no way and he will end up playing in a way that he doesn't want to, because personally I happen to me i tried to play a wp dps. despite doing good damage people never gave me the opportunity and I ended up playing the cities alone, and being farmed by a meta wb. I don't want to quit the game but I don't want to play a BW or SL either. I think twinks would be a good choice for people who just want to have fun.

You are free to spec heal for city, anyone will want you for their warband, because different content has different requirements and dps spec is not viable for this content.
You won't be able to successfully play any content with a single spec on all classes. Alternate specs are usually only good for certain activities, the main spec is universally useful.

bro, respectfully, I think your argument is very silly, so you are one of those who pretends that in the end we all end up playing the same thing in the same way forever, that is why the server grows and at the same time not because in the end only a few have fun.
and well if that's the thing because the devs waste resources and time fixing the "alternative specializations" so that later people come and say it's not that an alternative specialization we only need the goal.

[sharpblader]

let's think guys, if I want to have fun in r40 + I must play with one of the viable specializations, then we are all going to end up playing an aoe slayer for example but what about the person who wants to play slayer in another way there is no way and he will end up playing in a way that he doesn't want to, because personally I happen to me i tried to play a wp dps. despite doing good damage people never gave me the opportunity and I ended up playing the cities alone, and being farmed by a meta wb. I don't want to quit the game but I don't want to play a BW or SL either. I think twinks would be a good choice for people who just want to have fun.

Thats not completely true. Off specs are viable if you are geared, skilled and run in a highly coordinated group. If you lack any of the aforementioned criterion, you have to grind out your off spec gear while playing meta builds in pugs.

You can always play your choice of spec in pug SCs if you're willing to bear the occasional flame. (Will happen mostly if you're the only one who can perform the basic class function like heal or tank and not do it)

What I gather from this thread is that "fun" Is rofltstomping others.

If this was to be implemented the next forum thread would be by 16-29 level players begging to have a separate tier from 30-39 players who are having too much fun

[penagos22]

let's think guys, if I want to have fun in r40 + I must play with one of the viable specializations, then we are all going to end up playing an aoe slayer for example but what about the person who wants to play slayer in another way there is no way and he will end up playing in a way that he doesn't want to, because personally I happen to me i tried to play a wp dps. despite doing good damage people never gave me the opportunity and I ended up playing the cities alone, and being farmed by a meta wb. I don't want to quit the game but I don't want to play a BW or SL either. I think twinks would be a good choice for people who just want to have fun.

Thats not completely true. Off specs are viable if you are geared, skilled and run in a highly coordinated group. If you lack any of the aforementioned criterion, you have to grind out your off spec gear while playing meta builds in pugs.

You can always play your choice of spec in pug SCs if you're willing to bear the occasional flame. (Will happen mostly if you're the only one who can perform the basic class function like heal or tank and not do it)

What I gather from this thread is that "fun" Is rofltstomping others.

If this was to be implemented the next forum thread would be by 16-29 level players begging to have a separate tier from 30-39 players who are having too much fun

friend, that's the problem, why I have to farm as a healer if I don't like it?. why I need to have everything so they want to invite me? (for example me, look for me, holylaw, im full and people do not invite me). don't call me a liar. I'm not asking for buffs (which are needed because the way it should be played is supremely boring, if you want, look for my guide) I just want to play my wp dps.


there are 72 specs, and people just want there to be 24 playable, so remove them, but if the game enables me to play a 2h wp I want to play it


And the destruction and friends of the order who have seen me play in pugs in the cities can tell you I go out and try to play my wp dps even if I have to go out alone and being farming. if you want i can send you my db score, They have killed me more than 800 times in 2 weeks, I mean, I like to play my wp dps and I just want that, and I understand people want to win so I play alone and I don't get in the way of anyone, so maybe with 100 % scrolls people like me can play the game in a healthy way.

Look, one day I said, instead of asking for buffs let's see what can be done with what we have and well I was able to find a way to play my class, but people don't want to get out of the meta even if I have good gear. So what can i do then? I don't want to disturb the devs or the other players I just want to play my " off spec"
And don't tell me, well then you want to annoy those who are leveling up?, and the sad truth is the premades have kidnapped a lot of alterns in tier 2 and 3.


sorry for my englando.

[Ysaran]

where is the option for enjoying it as long as it lasts ...

The option is here, it's "no". You can delay the moment you reach r40 using -75%exp scroll, you can buy them at any Quartermaster

[Ysaran]

friend, that's the problem, why I have to farm as a healer if I don't like it?. why I need to have everything so they want to invite me? (for example me, look for me, holylaw, im full and people do not invite me). don't call me a liar. I'm not asking for buffs (which are needed because the way it should be played is supremely boring, if you want, look for my guide) I just want to play my wp dps.


there are 72 specs, and people just want there to be 24 playable, so remove them, but if the game enables me to play a 2h wp I want to play it


And the destruction and friends of the order who have seen me play in pugs in the cities can tell you I go out and try to play my wp dps even if I have to go out alone and being farming. if you want i can send you my db score, They have killed me more than 800 times in 2 weeks, I mean, I like to play my wp dps and I just want that, and I understand people want to win so I play alone and I don't get in the way of anyone, so maybe with 100 % scrolls people like me can play the game in a healthy way.

Look, one day I said, instead of asking for buffs let's see what can be done with what we have and well I was able to find a way to play my class, but people don't want to get out of the meta even if I have good gear. So what can i do then? I don't want to disturb the devs or the other players I just want to play my " off spec"
And don't tell me, well then you want to annoy those who are leveling up?, and the sad truth is the premades have kidnapped a lot of alterns in tier 2 and 3.


sorry for my englando.

I may be misunderstanding, but it's like asking why Literature P.h.Ds aren't allowed to build houses. If you want to build houses you have to be an architect, and it's only fair that it is so.

I'm sorry that ppl let you out of their party/wb but this is not related to dps WP. In my guild we have planty of meta dps (choppa, sorc, mSH, mara, WE) and often they are left out from guild parties/wb. The reason is simple: we don't have enough tank/healer to babysit them. So taking them with us would only be a weight and not an asset.
I play dps every night, I'm never left out. And you know why? Because I lead the damn party. I'm not the guild leader. I'm just a guy that knows a bit about this game and use his time to entertain his guild members. I think your problem isn't your class or your rank. You have to find the right ppl to play with. This game isn't built around solo.

P.S you guys here think that if there were 100% xp scroll reduction the game would be the same but you would be able to stai r40- forever. What you seem to not realize is that you like r40- because there are no premade farming you. But if 100% scroll were true, premade would just appear. You know why I know? Because during the last double XP week (six months ago?) my guild ran one of the premade that farmed T2 SCs, and forum was full of complaints about it.

[Dwarni]

P.S you guys here think that if there were 100% xp scroll reduction the game would be the same but you would be able to stai r40- forever. What you seem to not realize is that you like r40- because there are no premade farming you. But if 100% scroll were true, premade would just appear. You know why I know? Because during the last double XP week (six months ago?) my guild ran one of the premade that farmed T2 SCs, and forum was full of complaints about it.

Wrong!

- First there are already premades on both sides
- Secondly the problem isn't so much about premades, but about the gear advantage these premades have at 40. 6 men 80rr+ with sov gear vs 6 men 40-50rr with Mercenary/Dominator set.

In the Q&A they even said they plan to add Sov Weapons and new pve Weapons, so the difference will be even greater and greater because I don't think they'll stop with that.

They could also make all SCs only queueable with max 2 players like the pug SC, problem solved.

[phononHYPE]

I think 'no' but voted 'yes'. Prove me wrong.

[Sulorie]

bro, respectfully, I think your argument is very silly, so you are one of those who pretends that in the end we all end up playing the same thing in the same way forever, that is why the server grows and at the same time not because in the end only a few have fun.
and well if that's the thing because the devs waste resources and time fixing the "alternative specializations" so that later people come and say it's not that an alternative specialization we only need the goal.

You have to understand, that certain classes fulfill certain jobs and a wb leader picks the best classes they can find for said job. You won't argue with me, that any melee dd deals more dmg than melee wp. When you have 2 dd slots in a regular group, what should the leader pick? The answer should be obvious.
The healing you got, which helps you in 1vs1 and small scale, is not needed in a 2-2-2 grp within a warband, so nobody gains anything by picking your class spec over a regular dd class.
This is just common sense. See, my mains are dps healers too but I respecced for healing in city, because this is what helps us win, not being selfish by demanding to play my favorite spec.
You will never find the situation, where all specs and to a lesser extend classes be viable for all content. The latter should be improved though.
This is why you can adapt to a certain content by changing spec.
You won't bring aoe bw to scenario, because aoe specs are inferior to st spec in that environment.

[sharpblader]

Friend I never said you cant. You are free to play any spec you want. But the truth is in pugs they won't be as efficient as you'd hope if you're low geared. Why? Because running non efficient comps will lead to more losses. More losses means lower rewards. Lower rewards means slower progression. Slower progression means faster burnout by playing a role you don't want to.

And now your problem is that of a dps WP being uninvited in parties.

First, this isn't WoW where every class has some viable spec based on the Holy Trinity (Even when WoW started there wasnt). Even actual dps classes have a hard time getting in groups in this AoE meta.

Second, DPS WP/DoK is very strong in t3 letting them stay on forever will be unfair to others. And then like I said might create another list of complaints.

Third, by letting so many rank 39s stay in T2-3 will result in meta shift where there will be premades based on these ranks only. This will recreate the same problem faced by fresh 40s for fresh 16s. In no way is it healthy. And in this rank 39 meta there will be no guarantee that DPS WP will get a group easily contrary to what you expect. What will you do if your spec is shunned even then? Ask for 100% exp reduction at rank 15?

It's just a fact that you can't play certain specs at the highest level with hardcore players. You definitely need the right people to play with who can accommodate and even build around your spec.