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emiliorv
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Re: do we have a balance problem?

Post#71 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:33 pm

teiloh wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:18 pm
emiliorv wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:15 pm

2xBWs bring more dps than 1xSorc+1xMagus
Magus alone > 1 BW dps
Sorc alone > 1 BW

Magus + Sorc >>> 2 BW

I want the **** you smoke bro...rly

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teiloh
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Re: do we have a balance problem?

Post#72 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:35 pm

emiliorv wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:33 pm I want the **** you smoke bro...rly
My Magus stomps all BW :D

emiliorv
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Re: do we have a balance problem?

Post#73 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:40 pm

teiloh wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:35 pm
emiliorv wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:33 pm I want the **** you smoke bro...rly
My Magus stomps all BW :D
Im not talking in a 1 Vs 1....that means nothing. Also i have no doubt that you can outdps other BWs....but its not what happen with average players...

vobex16
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Re: do we have a balance problem?

Post#74 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:44 pm

Now its a destro server,order permanently have AAO in EU time, if devs nothing to do with that, server will be dying imao. Order solo roam is dead, small scale is dead, also 6ppl dead tho, Order can play only RDD classes because play a meele classes its a quick way to die. So....we
already have many leaving Ordel players,i know many of them for example. PPl leave this progect or do reroll on dessie side.(And i dont talk now about OP classes like a shamans who can runaway from 5 and more ppl in half DD spec its just rofl or rSquig Herder for example.) Ppl see that and leave progect naturally.

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teiloh
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Re: do we have a balance problem?

Post#75 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:48 pm

emiliorv wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:40 pm
teiloh wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:35 pm
emiliorv wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:33 pm I want the **** you smoke bro...rly
My Magus stomps all BW :D
Im not talking in a 1 Vs 1....that means nothing. Also i have no doubt that you can outdps other BWs....but its not what happen with average players...
It's not a difficult rotation at all, just Glean + Pande + IB and Lash alone is enough. If BW are a problem throw in Misdirection every now and then.

vobex16
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Re: do we have a balance problem?

Post#76 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:51 pm

teiloh wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:48 pm
emiliorv wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:40 pm
teiloh wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:35 pm

My Magus stomps all BW :D
Im not talking in a 1 Vs 1....that means nothing. Also i have no doubt that you can outdps other BWs....but its not what happen with average players...
It's not a difficult rotation at all, just Glean + Pande + IB and Lash alone is enough. If BW are a problem throw in Misdirection every now and then.
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Top :D :lol: yea excellent description of the situation

vobex16
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Re: do we have a balance problem?

Post#77 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:55 pm

knick wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:15 pm so how i start this topic not sounding any kind of biased?
think i start with a screenshot
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City today. 7 out of 7 for destr.
So is this the way we go?

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we already expect a huge imbalance in population and with the actual class balance its got even worse.
So before the flame start. Thx to the Admins to let this game be alive. Unfortunately we going the wrong way by some decisions.

Im not a clairvoyant but if we continue we can expect 99% -1% in playerbase. Not sure if this is what we all want - a pve game in pvp zones.


and now can all desto biased player spread their salt in my face. i can take it

Right man/
Now its a destro server,order permanently have AAO in EU time, if devs nothing to do with that, server will be dying imao. Order solo roam is dead, small scale is dead, also 6ppl dead tho, Order can play only RDD classes because play a meele classes its a quick way to die. So....we
already have many leaving Ordel players,i know many of them for example. PPl leave this progect or do reroll on dessie side.(And i dont talk now about OP classes like a shamans who can runaway from 5 and more ppl in half DD spec its just rofl or rSquig Herder for example.) Ppl see that and leave progect naturally.

sighy
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Re: do we have a balance problem?

Post#78 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:36 pm

teiloh wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:18 pm
emiliorv wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:15 pm

2xBWs bring more dps than 1xSorc+1xMagus
Magus alone > 1 BW dps
Sorc alone > 1 BW

Magus + Sorc >>> 2 BW

Unless they're doing coordinated Flashfire, in which case DPS is still not great but controlled burst is excellent

What AOE rotation are you comparing? FBB + FP? Because other than Flashfire BW have almost nothing else on the Sorc
I don't necessarily agree, with this statement, while it's true that magus can be king of ranged sustained aoe damage over time it takes a while to set up and doesn't stack very well, if you bring more than 1.

As for Sorcs there are huge threads, which discuss their comparisons way more in depth Mastery trees, utility, defensive options, m4s, etc. so not really gonna get into it, however outside of a test dummy vacuum there is an obvious discrepency that one is a staple of order deathballs, while the other is nishe and has a hard time looking for good-decent wbs.

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oaliaen
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Re: do we have a balance problem?

Post#79 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:48 pm

Maybe starting to tweak up some Order melee and and tweak down the rdps would resolve..Cause right now is meele train vs wall of pew pew..And it always was i guess.
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Re: do we have a balance problem?

Post#80 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:52 pm

oaliaen wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:48 pm Maybe starting to tweak up some Order melee and and tweak down the rdps would resolve..Cause right now is meele train vs wall of pew pew..And it always was i guess.
Yeah, make SL and WL stronger 😂
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