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balvor877
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Re: It is time

Post#21 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:25 pm

Jinxypie wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:06 pm Its only M1+ frenzy combo that makes SH pet dmg noticable.
More than noticable. Which other pet can do double hits for 1112 non crit?

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/875999278
Watch 1:36:35 and the damage of the pet.

The spiked squig is also very powerful as you can see in the video of svarz. As I said... 150% bonus from ballistic... no other pet has that.

Last time I logged my SH I also saw that the horned squig is getting huge weaponskill bonuses from the herder while the tooltip doesn't even state that. Might be a display bug or can anybody confirm that?

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Re: It is time

Post#22 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:48 pm

balvor877 wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:25 pm
Jinxypie wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:06 pm Its only M1+ frenzy combo that makes SH pet dmg noticable.
More than noticable. Which other pet can do double hits for 1112 non crit?

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/875999278
Watch 1:36:35 and the damage of the pet.

The spiked squig is also very powerful as you can see in the video of svarz. As I said... 150% bonus from ballistic... no other pet has that.

Last time I logged my SH I also saw that the horned squig is getting huge weaponskill bonuses from the herder while the tooltip doesn't even state that. Might be a display bug or can anybody confirm that?
Why you keep talking about the damn pet, WL can autoattack for 1700 on regular basis no M1 1min cd needed. Should pet be nerfed and SH shoot 1700 autoattacks instead? Btw the numbers you posted from like month old Zarbix stream ocured under M1+frenzy+on undergeared glass canon SW +no detaunt or guard. How about the part when he loged his Lion timestamping everything but tanks?
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Re: It is time

Post#23 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:56 pm

These balance discussion titles are getting out of hand:

"We have a problem"
"It is time"

What's next?

"GMs hate him"
"The thread order/destro don't want you to see"
"You won't BELIEVE what happens next!!"
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Re: It is time

Post#24 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:11 pm

Jinxypie wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:48 pm Why you keep talking about the damn pet, WL can autoattack for 1700 on regular basis no M1 1min cd needed. Should pet be nerfed and SH shoot 1700 autoattacks instead? Btw the numbers you posted from like month old Zarbix stream ocured under M1+frenzy+on undergeared glass canon SW +no detaunt or guard. How about the part when he loged his Lion timestamping everything but tanks.
Why I am talking about the pet? Because it is massivly overpowered compared to all other pets in the game.

A SH can fire frenzy + m1 and hide behind a tree or run out of range and the pet will solo kill most enemies (e.g. engis, BWs, SWs). And he can do that every minute! Or he knocks the target down, shoots some arrows and the pet will do the rest.

The risk for a SH to get a kill is incredible low, the damage output incredible high. They kill a lot and die almost never (the good ones). That's basically the definition of an overpowered class.

It has to be tuned down. The pet is one aspect that is obiously broken so it would be a good idea to start there.

Squigbeast to M2, no more stacking with frenzy, spiked down to 100%, done!

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Re: It is time

Post#25 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:42 pm

Wow rSh and pet... For years and years WL was the bane of the goblins as the WL and its pet would roam and look at goblins as hey free kill. Now that the WL class has been neutered and the rSH finally recieved buffs in which they are actually a threat... People are up in arms.

Nothing has changed over the years, buffs and nerfs to classes and players complaining its too STWONG!! I am guessing judging by the post this is a 1v1 complaint as small grp or wb play the rsh spec wouldnt be as effective.

Stop complaining and figure out how to overcome the rsh strengths and find the rsh weaknesses. Jeez WAR is nothing like how it used to be, anyhoo, again figure out how to overcome the rsh or mabe that spec is just your class main opposite and that the rsh will always best your class.
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Re: It is time

Post#26 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:44 pm

balvor877 wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:11 pm
The risk for a SH to get a kill is incredible low, the damage output incredible high. They kill a lot and die almost never (the good ones). That's basically the definition of an overpowered class.

It has to be tuned down. The pet is one aspect that is obiously broken so it would be a good idea to start there.

Squigbeast to M2, no more stacking with frenzy, spiked down to 100%, done!
The 65ft is actually very risky trade off. You get caught, you are dead. The incredible high dmg with incredible low change of dying is just your picture of SH. And the "good ones" wouldnt probably die no matter the class.
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Re: It is time

Post#27 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:04 pm

Jinxypie wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:44 pm ...The incredible high dmg with incredible low change of dying is just your picture of SH...
No it isn't and the svarz video link I posted prove that. Beside him there are a lot other high rr SHs that do very very well.

Which proves do you have beside saying it aint so?

And this wouldn't break the class at all: Squigbeast to M2, no more stacking with frenzy, spiked down to 100%

It would bring the class a little bit more in line with the others. You destro guys are spoiled because of your overall good classes. Play one of the weaker classes in orvr (e.g. offensive SM, Engi, dps Rune, heal AM), then you will see how incredible over the top the SH is. Sorc is also of that kind.

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Re: It is time

Post#28 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:17 pm

balvor877 wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:04 pm
Jinxypie wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:44 pm ...The incredible high dmg with incredible low change of dying is just your picture of SH...
No it isn't and the svarz video link I posted prove that. Beside him there are a lot other high rr SHs that do very very well.

Which proves do you have beside saying it aint so?
Sry man, but you are the one claiming its OP, you should back your claims with some data. Video proves absolutely nothing. You can do that on any dps.
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Re: It is time

Post#29 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:49 pm

Jinxypie wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:17 pm Sry man, but you are the one claiming its OP, you should back your claims with some data. Video proves absolutely nothing. You can do that on any dps.
Sry man, but that's just your opinion, nothing else. Video prove is the best you can get, especially from streamers. It's uncut and you can see that they are on a rampage for hours.

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Re: It is time

Post#30 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:00 pm

Mine and all the 3 pages of ppl disagreeing with you. Just enjoy the game and stop focusing on 1 ability from 1 certain class that bugs you out like I did with Rampage. I still hate it, but don't think game was ever more overall balanced than it's now.
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