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I'm dealing like 30-40 damage per hit on average to other players and taking around 270 per hit. What gives?

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DethDuffa
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Re: I'm dealing like 30-40 damage per hit on average to other players and taking around 270 per hit. What gives?

Post#11 » Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:10 pm

BeautfulToad wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:04 pm Yup, you need more strength. RoR generally discourages hybrid builds. If you go 2handed tank, you are maxing str first. It used to be that you need at least 700 str on a 2hander at 40, that's prob higher now. At 31, you could presumably get at least +100 or so from Talismans pretty cheaply, and you presumably can get +72, or perhaps +120, at least from renown pts. That might get you to 500, and you can see how it performs in t3 SCs.

There was a thread on the WS calculations a while ago, and i believe you were better stacking str until certain point then stacking WS.
Alright, in that case, I guess I'll focus on finding gear that adds large amounts of strength then.

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Re: I'm dealing like 30-40 damage per hit on average to other players and taking around 270 per hit. What gives?

Post#12 » Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:07 am

300 strength is deftard tier. That's fine for WB play, but for scens you want more like 500 if your SnB, and the forum consensus is that 2-hand is better for scenarios. Unless your main is a WE and you have impeccable positioning you'll get parried a whole lot with 300 strength. WS isn't practical until you get gud geer.
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Re: I'm dealing like 30-40 damage per hit on average to other players and taking around 270 per hit. What gives?

Post#13 » Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:35 am

Running 2h isn't good either if being lowrank in t4 bracket with lacking gear.
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Re: I'm dealing like 30-40 damage per hit on average to other players and taking around 270 per hit. What gives?

Post#14 » Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:35 am

With level 31 the bolster is only to level 40 and very weak when you face rr80+ targets. With level 30 the bolster is to level 48. Thus it's easier to fight them with level 30 than with 31 and higher until you have good gear and high rr.
I suggested to change that and smoothen the bolster but there are people like S. who are ignorant and think they know everything netter.

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Re: I'm dealing like 30-40 damage per hit on average to other players and taking around 270 per hit. What gives?

Post#15 » Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:54 am

balvor877 wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:35 am
I suggested to change that and smoothen the bolster but there are people like S. who are ignorant and think they know everything netter.
When you want to insult someone, write the full name. At least it would show some balls.
Sure, one can think about tweaking the bolster for 31+ but this won't change a lot in scenarios, the biggest effect will be in rvr.
The current bolster on the other hand is not the problem, as it is efficient use of bolster, which is often ignored.
I experienced all archetypes from 1 to 40 and never felt underpowered, while leveling up new chars, no matter the rank.
If you experienced problems, while progressing at lower ranks in midtier sc or wherever, don't you think it could be some individual problem?
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Re: I'm dealing like 30-40 damage per hit on average to other players and taking around 270 per hit. What gives?

Post#16 » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:47 am

Sulorie wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:54 am Sure, one can think about tweaking the bolster for 31+ but this won't change a lot in scenarios, the biggest effect will be in rvr.
The current bolster on the other hand is not the problem, as it is efficient use of bolster, which is often ignored.
I experienced all archetypes from 1 to 40 and never felt underpowered, while leveling up new chars, no matter the rank.
If you experienced problems, while progressing at lower ranks in midtier sc or wherever, don't you think it could be some individual problem?
You are ignorant as always and you are wrong.

I said the bolster could need some teaking in certain level ranges. Not that it isn't working. I said teaking...
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- In SC it is the level range from 16-20 and maybe also from 20-24 where I think that especially melee dps is too weak and the range of 36-39 where the dps is too strong.
- In ORVR it is the level 31 where the bolster drops from 48 to 40 and you can feel that a lot. Even with best possible gear it is A LOT harder to fight high RRs once you have hit r31. It could need some smoothing. Maybe lower the bolster a bit before 31 and increase it a bit for 31+. I just makes no sense that you are stronger with r29-r30 than with r31+ until you are 40 and have the first high set.

When you didn't notice that power gaps, well then, it could be an individual problem.

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Re: I'm dealing like 30-40 damage per hit on average to other players and taking around 270 per hit. What gives?

Post#17 » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:09 am

balvor877 wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:47 am
You are ignorant as always and you are wrong.

I said the bolster could need some teaking in certain level ranges. Not that it isn't working. I said teaking...
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=44179

- In SC it is the level range from 16-20 and maybe also from 20-24 where I think that especially melee dps is too weak and the range of 36-39 where the dps is too strong.
- In ORVR it is the level 31 where the bolster drops from 48 to 40 and you can feel that a lot. Even with best possible gear it is A LOT harder to fight high RRs once you have hit r31. It could need some smoothing. Maybe lower the bolster a bit before 31 and increase it a bit for 31+. I just makes no sense that you are stronger with r29-r30 than with r31+ until you are 40 and have the first high set.

When you didn't notice that power gaps, well then, it could be an individual problem.
I guess in some other dimension the ability to be useful despite a lower rank is called an individual problem and those, who create multiple balance threads, because they think to be too weak at a certain rank, are the knowledgeable people. Must be a hell lot of fun over there.
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Re: I'm dealing like 30-40 damage per hit on average to other players and taking around 270 per hit. What gives?

Post#18 » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:21 am

Sulorie wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:09 am I guess in some other dimension the ability to be useful despite a lower rank is called an individual problem and those, who create multiple balance threads, because they think to be too weak at a certain rank, are the knowledgeable people. Must be a hell lot of fun over there.
You seem to have a problem with getting the point. Having further discussion with you is wasted energy.

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