Patch Notes 28/05/2021

[Ysaran]

I liked NB but I only started using it a couple of months ago because I saw too many ppl using it and I did not want to give them this unfair advantage. Playing became easier and more enjoyable.

But let us see how the world will exist without NB. Now everyone is equal again except for facerolling classes. Old status quo is restored.

Equal you say? I don't think so. I play with Razer Naga and I have 12 button under my thumb. I can reach up to 48 skills using just Alt/Shift/Ctrl and my thumb, without considering the skills binded to my keyboard. Can everyone do the same? Nope. I can set up macro on my mouse, can everyone do the same? Nope again.
NB helped ppl with poor hardware and/or poor skill. But actually it helps your skills only to a certain degree; setting up fixed rotation takes the control of your character away from you, and to skilled player this is the worst scenario possible. It's like automatic gearbox vs manual gearbox: the first makes easier to drive while bounding your possibility, while the second one makes you more free but you have to actually know what you are doing.
I agree that ppl should rely only on his own ability and so I'm somewhat happy NB got banned, but on the other hand it is punishing ppl with bad hardware and I think this isn't fair at all

[cairlaith]

Besides macro keyboard and macro mouse users, some friends from destro side have already started to use 3rd party software for skill squences. They keep playing with only 3 buttons + ap/heal macros... Blocking NB was good idea, thank you !

[Everdin]

Most of classes do not need NB, for some it is comfort(IB, BG for example). But as already mentioned before, it is a tradeof, you geht this comfort but loosing flexibility.

Was using NB unfair?
If I decide not to use my Keyboard, because using mouse only is more "pure" and shows what a good player i am is stupid, and nobody would say "Hey let's all use mouse only to get rid of this unfairness"!
NB "was there when the westfold fell" (and where were Gondor?) It is no new-age addon spontanous appeard and let all skillless player rule over the real oprressed progamers.

Will not NB users be Happy now?
Not really, a small part of them will use incredible finger breaking skills to showoff what good players they are against all the ex-users. Most of them will enjoy 2 weeks, until all ex-users rearranged all binds and get used to it, after this they get stomped again.

Will people leave game?
No, not as much as it affect the gameplay, there will be people who leave, and some of them because they are really not able to play this game without NB due to some issues.
Important part of this question is the reaction of all NB haters here.
All this "Bye NB users"-like comments are the biggest stupidity of this whole thread. Seems like you are not aware what MMORPG (especially the part with the MM) stands for. Without a big, active community you will not be able to play and enjoy this game, loosing people is never a good sign.

[Earthcake]

Most of classes do not need NB, for some it is comfort(IB, BG for example). But as already mentioned before, it is a tradeof, you geht this comfort but loosing flexibility.

Was using NB unfair?
If I decide not to use my Keyboard, because using mouse only is more "pure" and shows what a good player i am is stupid, and nobody would say "Hey let's all use mouse only to get rid of this unfairness"!
NB "was there when the westfold fell" (and where were Gondor?) It is no new-age addon spontanous appeard and let all skillless player rule over the real oprressed progamers.

Will not NB users be Happy now?
Not really, a small part of them will use incredible finger breaking skills to showoff what good players they are against all the ex-users. Most of them will enjoy 2 weeks, until all ex-users rearranged all binds and get used to it, after this they get stomped again.

Will people leave game?
No, not as much as it affect the gameplay, there will be people who leave, and some of them because they are really not able to play this game without NB due to some issues.
Important part of this question is the reaction of all NB haters here.
All this "Bye NB users"-like comments are the biggest stupidity of this whole thread. Seems like you are not aware what MMORPG (especially the part with the MM) stands for. Without a big, active community you will not be able to play and enjoy this game, loosing people is never a good sign.

They are the same people that shame the supplies runners.
When it's actually the ONLY way to progress the campaign, so they should actually thank the ones ranking keeps.

These people will look at every possible way to say "i m better than everybody else" :
I don't use NB like those noobs, i m better!
I don't run boxes like those noobs, i m better!

and so on and so forth.
We'll see what will be their next shaming crusade, it's always a good laugh to me to read such shaming attempts using arguments against all logic

[Jusva321]

i just dont get why you have left it in the game for years and then over night change your minde

1 week ago a dev gave this advice on a nb post
Flight time on Yer Bleedin' delays when the debuff is applied which is what NB uses to move on to the next sequence. Set a virtual cooldown on it of 3s or so.

And then you ban it the week after, ill play the game with or without nb. But maby you shoud aske the guys that play on your server what they want, instead off making big changes like this and the last patch maby some ingame questions that can be answered on log in.

privat servers fail when they do what a few freinds want ... saying that i dont know if the server want nb or not, but you shoud aske what evil can come from that

[kryss]

Frankly, I am amazed at all this fuss about NB, even more after reading about people using 3rd party stuff to replace it (is that bannable? I hope so).
I would be also curious to know how many "pro players" are and were using that stuff, but time and our next encounters will surely tell. Yes, I am old school, but I also prefer to "read" buffs and debuffs second after second and make my choices.
As for the rest, just buy a Razer Naga and learn to use those 12 buttons in combo with CTRL-SHIFT and bam, you got all the keys u need.

[Everdin]

Best advice here in multiple replys, just stop using free addon and buy a 90$ Mouse!

[zarlemagne]

Frankly, I am amazed at all this fuss about NB, even more after reading about people using 3rd party stuff to replace it (is that bannable? I hope so).
I would be also curious to know how many "pro players" are and were using that stuff, but time and our next encounters will surely tell. Yes, I am old school, but I also prefer to "read" buffs and debuffs second after second and make my choices.
As for the rest, just buy a Razer Naga and learn to use those 12 buttons in combo with CTRL-SHIFT and bam, you got all the keys u need.

So by you logic people have to buy a £70 mouse (Amazon cost at time of writing) that you hope will get them banned as it uses 3rd party software.

Great logic there

[wiscel]

Nerfed Buttons

Nerfed Buttons has been blocked.

The Plan B addon for Sword Masters & Black Orcs will still function.

We have never really liked the idea of an addon automating conditional checks for players. Now it is blocked.

The worst patch ever, but If u want kill the game is good.

It is very hard play without nerfed button if u have a lot of lag and can update all the time your buffhead... Instead of making the game easier for the players, you only make it more and more difficult.

Time to buy keyboards with macros to play it

+ 1

[deadlyhat]

Over all good changes.

I just find it funny that the people saying NB should be banned because it gives people an "unfair advantage" while at the same time saying "99%" of the people on the server use it.
The 1% not using it being them of course, because they are skilled™ gamers that can press more buttons than us plebeian NB users, while also owning a Programable mouse/keyboard that does more work for them than most NB users.

I for one cant wait to find out what these Skilled™ Gamers are going to say gives everyone other than them the unfair advantage next, because they got killed and cant comprehend that they may have just died in a game about killing each other for fun that the enemies did not have some sort of advantage, because it could not possibly be their fault or were just simply beaten by a better player/players.

My money is on Miracle Grow.

Anyway poking fun at the Skilled™ Gamers aside.

I do think the NB change was overall a bad move, I like the ideas of stopping people who abuse the conditions part of the addon to make the addon do the thinking for them, instant punts/KD's being the only problem I have come across personally because of NB but it could just as easily be someone using BuffHead honestly.

I personally used NB for potions and to stop my abilities from moving around every time I respeced, so I am probably in the majority of NB users that used it for convenience unfortunately for the Skilled™ Gamers we are not devastatingly crippled by these changes and have to Git Gud, L2P and are more just annoyed that we now have to have 4-8+ Key binds just for consumables again and have to spend the extra 2 minutes moving our abilities every time we respec. (Poor us we have to move abilities around cry more)

Unfortunately there is an small amount of people who are actually really effected by this change and are feeling alienated by the Devs because of it and the people who are enjoying the fact that game has become much harder for people to play who have problems with the amount of key binds in the game for whatever reason be it disability or lack of programmable hardware are the real pricks here and you were not upset because they had an "advantage" but the fact you did not have the advantage yourself and you my friends are not as skilled™ as you think you are because the actually skilled™ players know that NB was rarely ever a factor in them winning or losing fights.

TLDR:
Changes are overall good
I think changing NB to be strictly only for sequencing was a better idea than just completely nuking the addon from orbit, because it effects people who have genuine problems playing the game with so many key binds.