Patch Notes 28/05/2021

[kaela]

People complaining here about nb bann need to chill and realize they really don't need ALL of the skills in their book to play WAR successfully. Actually, focusing on the main skills fitting yours and your groups playstyle and the propper timing of those skills (buffhead is still here to help you with that) is more than half of the battle.

/two cents

[tazdingo]

more than half of the battle.

i'm gonna go out and give it 60% !

[Talladego]

Sounds like you can still set a single ability into NB with a ton of conditionals then?

Doubt it, even with one ability NB changes from the one ability to blank and back when condition is met again.
This will probably trigger the 3s gcd in combat as well.

The thing is the server seems to keep track on what's on your hotbars and can detect when an hotbar ability changes and trigger a gcd.

Will need to try it out as you might be right, however, I don't think it uses a blank. The final ability in the sequence is the default it displays during GCDs and before the sequence is in use so if just one skill it might not change. IDK though.

Well yes but with only one ability in the sequence it is also always the default ability and will not change regardless of conditions.

[kaela]

more than half of the battle.

i'm gonna go out and give it 60% !

Figure of speech and such, I honestly believe it is even more...

[thefreakingclaw]

Doubt it, even with one ability NB changes from the one ability to blank and back when condition is met again.
This will probably trigger the 3s gcd in combat as well.

The thing is the server seems to keep track on what's on your hotbars and can detect when an hotbar ability changes and trigger a gcd.

Will need to try it out as you might be right, however, I don't think it uses a blank. The final ability in the sequence is the default it displays during GCDs and before the sequence is in use so if just one skill it might not change. IDK though.

Well yes but with only one ability in the sequence it is also always the default ability and will not change regardless of conditions.

If that is the case then, with a bunch of single abilities set with conditions and a spam macro you will get a similar result to what NB used to do anyway, surely? Im not that technical but sounds plausable off the top of my head.

[Omegus]

Seems now that anytime you drag/move an ability on a hotbar while in combat a global 3s cooldown triggers.
Afaik this is exactly what NB and other addons do.

Yep. The client sends the server the details of which ability (including items) is on which hotbar slot as this information is saved server side. This means the devs can detect when any hotbar slot changes are made the moment they are made, and force a 3s cooldown if you're in combat. Removing the functionality of conditional checks is all but impossible due to how the UI system is designed (i.e. it would break lots of things). This fix is actually quite clever in the big scheme of things. Forcing a 3s GCD if you're moving your hotbar buttons about manually to setup a UI is nothing, 3s GCD in combat is enough to kill the addon and similar ones.

I do hope that there will be a follow-up usability patch for some abilities that are just super janky to use. For example, Zealots/RP would used NerfedButtons to switch to damage mode (more Intel buff so less chance to be disrupted), cast the stagger and then switch back to healing. The damage/healing mode changes are off the GCD and the cooldowns lines up perfectly. It was dumb having to press one button quickly 3 times (with NB) to get a slightly more reliable stagger off, and it's even dumber now those 3 button presses are over 2 different keys.

If that is the case then, with a bunch of single abilities set with conditions and a spam macro you will get a similar result to what NB used to do anyway, surely? Im not that technical but sounds plausable off the top of my head.

How do you disable this ability if the conditions are not met? If you have to set the hotbar slot between empty and the ability you want then this still triggers the immediate 3s GCD.

[tazdingo]

more than half of the battle.

i'm gonna go out and give it 60% !

Figure of speech and such, I honestly believe it is even more...

you're probably right i'm just joshing. but it depends on class. chosen and knight can legit be effective with 5 buttons whereas ib and bg need 30. but this has already been said a hundred times i guess

[nonfactor]

i'm gonna go out and give it 60% !

Figure of speech and such, I honestly believe it is even more...

you're probably right i'm just joshing. but it depends on class. chosen and knight can legit be effective with 5 buttons whereas ib and bg need 30. but this has already been said a hundred times i guess

this is the saddest part, knights and chosen require very few buttons or skill to play yet they had been the backbone of warbands in city sieges, orvr, 6v6, rankeds while other tanks have to work twice as hard with thrice as many buttons and are still not on the chosen/kotbs level. naturally you can play ib/bg without nb but it evened the field a bit

simple sequencer should have stayed so we can use things like pots with one button, there is not much skill difference whether i press 1 and 2 or 1 then 1 when trying to heal

also i dont understand the hate nb gets here, do you think that you will suddenly start winning every match because nb players cant play the game without it? it just takes few days of getting used to, you can always put conditionals on addons like aura and press another button. the feeling of superiority in this thread is quite disgusting, i wonder what war boomers will use next as their scapegoat for losing

[chovudal]

I know best IBs, who dont use NB, so dont assume anything.

Btw dont whine, its an addon and not part of the Game, and blocking it, maybe helps reducing lags and fps drops.

ImO its best decision ever blocking it. On live it was banned too, so to all complainers -》 L2P or build a group or just go into RL

[nonfactor]

I know best IBs, who dont use NB, so dont assume anything.

name them