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SkPrime
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Re: solo ranked and voice chat.

Post#21 » Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:37 am

GamesBond wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:11 am
We're not really promoting it though, it's purely community created and it helps players on the long run in both solo and group ranked. Someone took the initiate and the others followed.
We have no clear plans for Season 3 yet but as you said, it indirectly trains the cooperative mentality of solo players and proves that grouping up and organizing result in more rewards and higher win rates. More organized groups in RvR and SCs are better for everyone.
If those are the reasons would't just work better to remove the soloQ and let ppl organize groups for teamQ? We would have more organized groups, as you say, and ppl would understand that grouping and organizing result in more rewards... Again, as you said ;)
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Re: solo ranked and voice chat.

Post#22 » Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:39 am

seems counter productive to have SOLO ranked and then tell them to treat it like a 6 man premade anyway, may as well scrap solo and just have grouped

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Re: solo ranked and voice chat.

Post#23 » Tue Jun 29, 2021 2:08 pm

SkPrime wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:37 am
GamesBond wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:11 am
We're not really promoting it though, it's purely community created and it helps players on the long run in both solo and group ranked. Someone took the initiate and the others followed.
We have no clear plans for Season 3 yet but as you said, it indirectly trains the cooperative mentality of solo players and proves that grouping up and organizing result in more rewards and higher win rates. More organized groups in RvR and SCs are better for everyone.
If those are the reasons would't just work better to remove the soloQ and let ppl organize groups for teamQ? We would have more organized groups, as you say, and ppl would understand that grouping and organizing result in more rewards... Again, as you said ;)
Because it's just how it's built, there is solo queue and there is group queue. Players can freely pick between these two, they can also choose whether they want to use voice chat or not. I don't know why it's a hard point to agree on: It's purely a choice but the logic would say that if you're solo queueing and you care about winning, you can spare a few seconds to join that community Discord, coordinate with random new people who you might end up forging a group with later on.

layet94 wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:39 am seems counter productive to have SOLO ranked and then tell them to treat it like a 6 man premade anyway, may as well scrap solo and just have grouped
There's a huge difference between having no option but to play group ranked and being able to join a voice chat if they would like to cooperate with their team mates.

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Re: solo ranked and voice chat.

Post#24 » Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:02 pm

I understand that now the soloq is for the same player profile as 6xpremade.

and which is now no longer soloq , it is now random pick

and yes the game is more unfair when they play with communication vs without

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Re: solo ranked and voice chat.

Post#25 » Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:42 pm

wargrimnir wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:06 pm I would encourage anyone running ranked to coordinate with your teammates on comms. It's not a baby mode.
While encouraging people to group up is a good thing, I feel like this discord goes against the idea of "solo" aspect of solo ranked. Its now team ranked with random teammates. You can argue about definition of solo ranked but either way this new thing is VERY different than what it was on season 1 and preseasons 1 and 2. Of course there was no way of stopping people from using voicecom in their private discords but I'm pretty sure most people didnt do it until this discord was made and promoted by Gravord and devs. This does make discord pretty much mandatory because team with more people on voice have huge advantage: CC's, morale drops etc etc its a difference between night and day so you are more or less forced to join voicecom or suck (or quit). If one side is on discord and other isnt (like it was this evening), it basically turns solo queue into pug vs premade situation. Dont like it that much but if thats what devs want then its going to be like that for the better or worse.

It might become working system eventually if pretty much everyone starts using this and channel staff dont abuse their powers in order to win games or for whatever other reason but until then its a broken system in my opinion. And either way it turns solo ranked into some sort of team ranked.
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Re: solo ranked and voice chat.

Post#26 » Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:17 pm

to coordinate with your teammates for this already have the 6x premade

soloq would be for whoever adapts better wins...

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Re: solo ranked and voice chat.

Post#27 » Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:01 am

Hugatsaga wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:42 pm
wargrimnir wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:06 pm I would encourage anyone running ranked to coordinate with your teammates on comms. It's not a baby mode.
While encouraging people to group up is a good thing, I feel like this discord goes against the idea of "solo" aspect of solo ranked. Its now team ranked with random teammates. You can argue about definition of solo ranked but either way this new thing is VERY different than what it was on season 1 and preseasons 1 and 2. Of course there was no way of stopping people from using voicecom in their private discords but I'm pretty sure most people didnt do it until this discord was made and promoted by Gravord and devs. This does make discord pretty much mandatory because team with more people on voice have huge advantage: CC's, morale drops etc etc its a difference between night and day so you are more or less forced to join voicecom or suck (or quit). If one side is on discord and other isnt (like it was this evening), it basically turns solo queue into pug vs premade situation. Dont like it that much but if thats what devs want then its going to be like that for the better or worse.

It might become working system eventually if pretty much everyone starts using this and channel staff dont abuse their powers in order to win games or for whatever other reason but until then its a broken system in my opinion. And either way it turns solo ranked into some sort of team ranked.
Coordinating with your team does give you an advantage if the other team isn't doing the same thing. That's kind of the point of this game mode. Playing at the highest level. If you're not into that, don't do it. There are many more casual alternatives to play and enjoy the game.
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