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Blacksuperman
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Blackguard / IB - 2h Knockdown

Post#1 » Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:33 am

I'm not sure if this belongs here, or better should go to Bugtracker...

IB 2h Knockdown "Cave-In" is a 3s knockdown and a 5s dot on it, therefor it is a Curse,
so you can cleanse the dot, but not the Knockdown. (unless that changed some weeks ago)

now, 2h Knockdown of BG "Malignant Strike" is a new ability, was not on life server...
It doesnt have a dot on it, but it is a Hex.
So when i see a 2h Blackguard run at my ranged dps, i hold my finger on cleanse button, and when he opens with knockdown,
i can insta cleanse it :D .. People in Discord didnt even notice they got knocked down :lol:

Is that intentional or a bug?

Thanks

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Blacksuperman
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Re: Blackguard / IB - 2h Knockdown

Post#3 » Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:24 am

Lilim wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:02 am Hey,

does one of these boys fits to your statement?

https://github.com/WarEmu/WarBugs/issues/19722
https://github.com/WarEmu/WarBugs/issues/17548
No Sir...

BG knocked my BW teammate, i instantly cleansed the knockdown... So the BW by itself didnt even notice, that he got knocked down.
After that, he had a "visual" immunity for 30s. -> even he was only knocked .5s

and the cleanse wasn't a visual bug either, the BW stood up after .5s and kept kiting..
also cuz i'm Archmage, BW had hot&absorb from my cleanse on him when i cleansed the knockdown :D

I'm sure you noticed, english isn't my first language... hope my explenation is understandable
gonna try and take a Vid next time :lol:

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Lilim
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Re: Blackguard / IB - 2h Knockdown

Post#4 » Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:09 am

Hey,

Then jump on the bug tracker train and post it there. Pics and Videos are always welcome. Everything that helps to reproduce the issue should be in your ticket.

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nebelwerfer
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Re: Blackguard / IB - 2h Knockdown

Post#5 » Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:55 pm

Blacksuperman wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:24 am
Lilim wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:02 am Hey,

does one of these boys fits to your statement?

https://github.com/WarEmu/WarBugs/issues/19722
https://github.com/WarEmu/WarBugs/issues/17548
No Sir...

BG knocked my BW teammate, i instantly cleansed the knockdown... So the BW by itself didnt even notice, that he got knocked down.
After that, he had a "visual" immunity for 30s. -> even he was only knocked .5s

and the cleanse wasn't a visual bug either, the BW stood up after .5s and kept kiting..
also cuz i'm Archmage, BW had hot&absorb from my cleanse on him when i cleansed the knockdown :D

I'm sure you noticed, english isn't my first language... hope my explenation is understandable
gonna try and take a Vid next time :lol:
you're not using this tactic are you? RoR.builders - Archmage

since u said ur an archmage

squiggastolemybike
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Re: Blackguard / IB - 2h Knockdown

Post#6 » Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:15 pm

Rolled order alts including Warrior Priest around 2 years ago and for as long as I remember I could always cleanse 2h BG knockdown. So it did not occur to me that it was a bug but it did seem weird and unfair.
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Blacksuperman
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Re: Blackguard / IB - 2h Knockdown

Post#7 » Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:49 pm

squiggastolemybike wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:15 pm Rolled order alts including Warrior Priest around 2 years ago and for as long as I remember I could always cleanse 2h BG knockdown. So it did not occure to me that it was a bug but it did seem weird and unfair.
Now someone got my point :D

I think... the guy who "copy" the 2h IB KD to the BG, made a mistake in thoughtsprocess....
He saw -> IB KD is a "curse" -> so i make BG KD a "Hex"

But The "Curse" part of the IB knockdown was the dot... you can cleanse the IB dot and not the KD itself :D

Thats why i am asking... maybe it's intentional, and BG has to deal with covering their knockdown :P

Thanks again guys...

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Kaeldrick
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Re: Blackguard / IB - 2h Knockdown

Post#8 » Wed Feb 09, 2022 2:47 pm

Imho, it's a bug. Black Guard's KD shouldn't have Hex as attribute but Damaging, just like Chosen's and just like Chosen's KD, it's a 9pt skill from a specific tree.

KD is a hardcontrol, just like Stagger is. Immagine being able to clean stagger, KD, Disarm and at same time keeping the immunity mechanism... Controls would be just useless.

If thread opener doesn't create a ticket, I will.

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Lilim
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Re: Blackguard / IB - 2h Knockdown

Post#9 » Wed Feb 09, 2022 2:54 pm

Kaeldrick wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 2:47 pm If thread opener doesn't create a ticket, I will.
please :D

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Kaeldrick
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Re: Blackguard / IB - 2h Knockdown

Post#10 » Wed Feb 09, 2022 2:58 pm

We will make a video with guildmates later today to show the issue.

Thank you Blacksuperman for giving us that info :)

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