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Battlefield
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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun

Post#91 » Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:23 am

diegomess wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:10 am
Battlefield wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:27 pm Even the Choppa with an advantage able to kill the Knight 70rr+ now, great work devs !

https://youtu.be/CKKt5Qov6Hs?t=165
giga chad choppa built for solo roaming with experience vs virgin knight that plays with tactics for WB
This Knight player is not strong but Kotbs class should be stronger than Choppa !
What tactic do you mean, I don't see it...? AP aura or crit? If so, it's not bad for group.

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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun

Post#92 » Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:55 am

Battlefield wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:23 am
diegomess wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:10 am
Battlefield wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:27 pm Even the Choppa with an advantage able to kill the Knight 70rr+ now, great work devs !

https://youtu.be/CKKt5Qov6Hs?t=165
giga chad choppa built for solo roaming with experience vs virgin knight that plays with tactics for WB
This Knight player is not strong but Kotbs class should be stronger than Choppa !
What tactic do you mean, I don't see it...? AP aura or crit? If so, it's not bad for group.
i dont know, i meant one is built for solo the other for classic WB play i bet there is a proper build for solo knight
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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun

Post#93 » Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:20 am

Battlefield wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:27 pm Even the Choppa with an advantage able to kill the Knight 70rr+ now, great work devs !

https://youtu.be/CKKt5Qov6Hs?t=165


https://youtu.be/MwfXOrE_I3Y

Same characters.

The knight is not using OYG, not interrupting FC, using a group oriented tactic build, not using full pots, uses challenge in a 1v1 and still wins.

For solo, in the current state, I would never recommend using the conquest tree at all on knight.

Here's what I run:

RoR.builders - Knight of the Blazing Sun

Last two points are flexible

Stand Strong and Gather Your Resolve as the base two auras, last aura depends on opponent. If they can heal, Nows our chance, if they are melee OYG.

Against IB/BG, you can drop GYR and keep both OYG and NOC up with SS.

Tactics: Emp ward, rugged, runefang and 4th is as per preference

Against AM/shamans and other non physical dmg dealers: emp ward, rugged, focused offense and bellow commands. Can switch rugged to unwavering faith if against spirit damage users.

Stat prio: Weapon Skill, Strength, Toughness/Wounds

WS is great against other solo builds that do not rack up cap strength ( looking at you def WEs) . With Runefang snd warlord gear you can reach about 50% armor pen and soft parry of about 50% to 60% with city weapon Nightless.

Can go into more details even against specific classes if interested.
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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun

Post#94 » Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:36 am

sharpblader wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:20 am
Battlefield wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:27 pm Even the Choppa with an advantage able to kill the Knight 70rr+ now, great work devs !

https://youtu.be/CKKt5Qov6Hs?t=165


https://youtu.be/MwfXOrE_I3Y

Same characters.

The knight is not using OYG, not interrupting FC, using a group oriented tactic build, not using full pots, uses challenge in a 1v1 and still wins.

For solo, in the current state, I would never recommend using the conquest tree at all on knight.

Here's what I run:

RoR.builders - Knight of the Blazing Sun

Stand Strong and Gather Your Resolve as the base two auras, last aura depends on opponent. If they can heal, Nows our chance, if they are melee OYG.

Against IB/BG, you can drop GYR and keep both OYG and NOC up with SS.
As i wrote before, if Knight player is not strong but Kotbs class should be stronger than Choppa !

Path of Glory is usless as damage, cause Blazing blade has physical damage and can be easy cleansable , no point to take it after removing of Mighty soul tactic.

my gank build with max weapon skill talismans in shield and with damaging auras,

RoR.builders - Knight of the Blazing Sun

2h Knight needs only for team buffs and punt, for gank or small scale fights he is weak after nerf.

OMG,i wrote all this before on previous pages, why should i reapeat again?? Please, read all before and after make new comments !

Parry from weapon skill is not the same as Parry % stat from items, it is ignored by strength but items parry stat is not, otherwise parry from weapon skill is more useless !

And please, don't teach an experienced player how to play or what is better. All tested all checked and Kotbs is not so good today how it was in 2016-2019, because nerf nerf nerf nerf nerf nerf nerf without any good patch for him
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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun

Post#95 » Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:38 am

diegomess wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:13 am lorewise knight should be the weakest class in the game, i think is best represented here but its absurd the super punt give that to BO he should grab people then throw them like BG punt.

now change kobs for a bretonian grail knight? that makes more sense
Dahaka, and Chosens won in Shadowlands tonight vs Knights :D

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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun

Post#96 » Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:44 am

Spoiler:
Battlefield wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:36 am
sharpblader wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:20 am
Battlefield wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:27 pm Even the Choppa with an advantage able to kill the Knight 70rr+ now, great work devs !

https://youtu.be/CKKt5Qov6Hs?t=165


https://youtu.be/MwfXOrE_I3Y

Same characters.

The knight is not using OYG, not interrupting FC, using a group oriented tactic build, not using full pots, uses challenge in a 1v1 and still wins.

For solo, in the current state, I would never recommend using the conquest tree at all on knight.

Here's what I run:

RoR.builders - Knight of the Blazing Sun

Stand Strong and Gather Your Resolve as the base two auras, last aura depends on opponent. If they can heal, Nows our chance, if they are melee OYG.

Against IB/BG, you can drop GYR and keep both OYG and NOC up with SS.
As i wrote before, if Knight player is not strong but Kotbs class should be stronger than Choppa !

Path of Glory is usless as damage, cause Blazing blade has physical damage and can be easy cleansable , no point to take it after removing of Mighty soul tactic.

my gank build with max weapon skill talismans in shield and with damaging auras,

RoR.builders - Knight of the Blazing Sun

2h Knight needs only for team buffs and punt, for gank or small scale fights he is weak after nerf.

OMG,i wrote all this before on previous pages, why should i reapeat again?? Please, read all before and after make new comments !

Parry from weapon skill is not the same as Parry % stat from items, it is ignored by strength but items parry stat is not !

And please, don't teach an experienced player how to play or what is better. All tested all checked and Kotbs is not so good today how it was in 2016-2019, because nerf nerf nerf nerf nerf nerf nerf without any good patch for him
Ok.

I was trying to give suggestions based on my experience so you can try having a better solo gameplay. With that build Ive frequently killed shamans, def WEs, etc.

That's why I said soft parry and mentioned that WS is good against classes that dont have high strength.

Why don't you read what others write before you ask them to read?

Your prideful answer deserves an equal response:

L2P

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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun

Post#97 » Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:39 am

Battlefield wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:38 am
diegomess wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:13 am lorewise knight should be the weakest class in the game, i think is best represented here but its absurd the super punt give that to BO he should grab people then throw them like BG punt.

now change kobs for a bretonian grail knight? that makes more sense
Dahaka, and Chosens won in Shadowlands tonight vs Knights :D
how can you compare the 2h chad power rangers with offensive builds against deftard knights most of them snb.
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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun

Post#98 » Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:47 am

its an odd sentiment that you think knights should be winning fights on the sole virtue of being a knight

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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun

Post#99 » Sun Feb 13, 2022 12:18 pm

sharpblader wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:44 am
Spoiler:
Battlefield wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:36 am
sharpblader wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:20 am



https://youtu.be/MwfXOrE_I3Y

Same characters.

The knight is not using OYG, not interrupting FC, using a group oriented tactic build, not using full pots, uses challenge in a 1v1 and still wins.

For solo, in the current state, I would never recommend using the conquest tree at all on knight.

Here's what I run:

RoR.builders - Knight of the Blazing Sun

Stand Strong and Gather Your Resolve as the base two auras, last aura depends on opponent. If they can heal, Nows our chance, if they are melee OYG.

Against IB/BG, you can drop GYR and keep both OYG and NOC up with SS.
As i wrote before, if Knight player is not strong but Kotbs class should be stronger than Choppa !

Path of Glory is usless as damage, cause Blazing blade has physical damage and can be easy cleansable , no point to take it after removing of Mighty soul tactic.

my gank build with max weapon skill talismans in shield and with damaging auras,

RoR.builders - Knight of the Blazing Sun

2h Knight needs only for team buffs and punt, for gank or small scale fights he is weak after nerf.

OMG,i wrote all this before on previous pages, why should i reapeat again?? Please, read all before and after make new comments !

Parry from weapon skill is not the same as Parry % stat from items, it is ignored by strength but items parry stat is not !

And please, don't teach an experienced player how to play or what is better. All tested all checked and Kotbs is not so good today how it was in 2016-2019, because nerf nerf nerf nerf nerf nerf nerf without any good patch for him
Ok.

I was trying to give suggestions based on my experience so you can try having a better solo gameplay. With that build Ive frequently killed shamans, def WEs, etc.

That's why I said soft parry and mentioned that WS is good against classes that dont have high strength.

Why don't you read what others write before you ask them to read?

Your prideful answer deserves an equal response:

L2P
I read everthing but too many stupid comments from blind players that sitting on other chars instead of Knight and afraid of any small buff to him, they don't understand the Knight's current problem ! You can't kill Shaman with Blazing blade ability because Shama able to cleanse it and you loose a damage, if not taking the Path of Conquest, maybe Unbalancing Attack helped you with or was it an inexperienced Shaman player ...
Witch elf Kooko killing almost any Knight in the game now and does not matter what build they have !
I've been playing for Knight almost for the fourth year here on RoR with breaks and watch !
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Re: Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun

Post#100 » Sun Feb 13, 2022 12:23 pm

diegomess wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:39 am
Battlefield wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:38 am
diegomess wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:13 am lorewise knight should be the weakest class in the game, i think is best represented here but its absurd the super punt give that to BO he should grab people then throw them like BG punt.

now change kobs for a bretonian grail knight? that makes more sense
Dahaka, and Chosens won in Shadowlands tonight vs Knights :D
how can you compare the 2h chad power rangers with offensive builds against deftard knights most of them snb.
Cause 2h Knight's spec is worse and weaker after nerfs vs Chosen, no other way !
You would kill 2h Knights even faster and i had offensive SnB build !

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