Destro daily zerg

[Lion1986]

Last couple of months we've seen destro side zerg more and more in every time zone. None more apparent than EU prime time.
Its not uncommon to engage a destro wb with an order wb, only to instantly get flooded by another 3-4 organized destro wbs, leaving only one outcome.

I know that order doesnt have that many organized discord driven warbands any more, and that said destro wbs are eager to find whatever is left to fight. But all it does is drive the last organized order away.

As most know, its not uncommon to see organized destro names, and u all know who u are, surfing eachothers wbs, making a mockery of whatever order has stayed around to give a zone a go. Its apparent when watching destro Streamers on twitch and its apparent when entering zones with a 12 or 18 man of order.

Furthermore everyone stack together in one zone, from both order and destro, leaving the other open pairing down to perhaps scouts VS parties. Why not actively try to spread out?

To round off me wee rant, I would acknowlegde that perhaps wb VS wb fights are a Thing of the past and that I, and others like minded people, are dinosaurs that hasnt realized that we're extinct yet. But it seems to me, that the short term thinking of some people, will produce long term negative effects on the server population as a whole.

No its not the devs responsibility, and no its not bad coding or reward system. Its all down to player mentality.

faction imbalances happens all the time; current pop-shift happening due to "best patch ever" which butchered "realm vs realm" notion of the game. guessing some warband leaders stopped building their daily pug warbands.

if there is no reason to defend/conqueror rvr elements aka "keeps,forts" to reach final destination "city" why should they bother anyway ? the ones whos doing warbands right now just there for kill farm.

correct. wether is fort, city, t2 area or t4 is same stuff. still you get same warcrests for zerging, for scenarios, etc.

[messerjockel]

This is my opinion and nobody has a wrong opinion anyway.
I like zerging or coordinating huge amounts of players at the same time at the right place just because I like the fight of big armies against each other.
Sometimes it is not even about winning or loosing, just to participate in those battles.
That is what appeals to me in ROR and always did in DAOC.

BR

Messerjockel

[agemennon675]

This is my opinion and nobody has a wrong opinion anyway.
I like zerging or coordinating huge amounts of players at the same time at the right place just because I like the fight of big armies against each other.
Sometimes it is not even about winning or loosing, just to participate in those battles.
That is what appeals to me in ROR and always did in DAOC.

BR

Messerjockel

I dont think there is a rule that states you cannot coordinate multiple warbands or you cannot zerg etc. play the game however you want. Winning or losing in this game comes down to which side has more organised groups. Whether they coordinate with each other or move together is up to them. Simple as that

[Lion1986]

in this game they blame opposite faction just because is better organized. This tells you long miles about mentality of average order player.

[Fenris78]

Honestly you cannot organize anything worthy when outnumbered 2:1 or 3:1 everday.

Players just need to stop logging for zergfest, and start to log for stand against it and even the odds out.

Playing the already overstacked realm everday will not be healthy for server in the long run. It's not about "more or less organized" it's about one realm stacking everyone, and the other only remaining with pugs.

Tell some organized destru guilds to switch to Order and stick with it for weeks, and we could start playing even fields with 3 org wbs each side, instead of the current 5 vs 0 we have almost 24/7.

Or just make Order side more appealing to build a more healthy play. Current situation is not due to the remnants of Order struggling to do anything but stand against the zerg (or logging off because not worthy), but for 90% of playerbase maining Destru and refusing to switch when needed.

[Lion1986]

you cannot force ppl play 1 side. Deal with it

[Aethilmar]

you cannot force ppl play 1 side. Deal with it

You can stop explicitly rewarding stacking one side though and/or continue to make underdog more appealing.

[Lion1986]

you cannot force ppl play 1 side. Deal with it

You can stop explicitly rewarding stacking one side though and/or continue to make underdog more appealing.

they did already. they introduced the war thorn apathy. Ppl do not join order simply because order guilds are pathetic at best, pugs are horrible with little to no communication and even with salyer bugged still manage to suck. why should I bother restart from level 1 in there?

[BluIzLucky]

you cannot force ppl play 1 side. Deal with it

You can stop explicitly rewarding stacking one side though and/or continue to make underdog more appealing.

they did already. they introduced the war thorn apathy. Ppl do not join order simply because order guilds are pathetic at best, pugs are horrible with little to no communication and even with salyer bugged still manage to suck. why should I bother restart from level 1 in there?

They didn't introduce WTA, they just made the debuff icon visible..
They DID introduce weekly rewards with last and best tier being tied to winning keep/fort, which to many will be a significant reason to join zerg side.
The new WTA 2-20% decreased drop chance (20-100 AAO) is nice but does little to offset the weekly.

Also... are you saying that you don't have a 40+ Order alt, but you feel very confident in talking about how much better destro pugging is (on your new destro account)?

[Scottx125]

You can stop explicitly rewarding stacking one side though and/or continue to make underdog more appealing.

they did already. they introduced the war thorn apathy. Ppl do not join order simply because order guilds are pathetic at best, pugs are horrible with little to no communication and even with salyer bugged still manage to suck. why should I bother restart from level 1 in there?

They didn't introduce WTA, they just made the debuff icon visible..
They DID introduce weekly rewards with last and best tier being tied to winning keep/fort, which to many will be a significant reason to join zerg side.
The new WTA 2-20% decreased drop chance (20-100 AAO) is nice but does little to offset the weekly.

Also... are you saying that you don't have a 40+ Order alt, but you feel very confident in talking about how much better destro pugging is (on your new destro account)?

You don't have to be a dolphin to know it's intelligent. You simply observe it's behaviour in a complex environment. And in general, destro pugs perform better than order pugs. For what reason I don't know. But they do.