Impossible to play.

[Glohroc]

If Mandred`s keep is taken by Orded and 3-4 Engineers place their turrets in lord room-whole party is dead. You`re easily auto attacked by turret, by Engineer itself, he is able to shoot aoe, his turret shoots aoe, so everyone dies on stairs.
Really, it becomes impossible to play. Just now we were trying to take control over Mandred`s keep. There were just 4 Engineers and one Warpriest. 2-3 parties of Destro died.

[Twyxx]

Just pointing out that Engineers aren't the only ones that can (and do) aoe through walls...

[Glohroc]

Just pointing out that Engineers aren't the only ones that can (and do) aoe through walls...

Well, I`m just a bit emotional about Engineers at the moment. But you`re right- eberybody can aoe through walls. And it`s really disturbing.
I know this topic existed a lot of times already, but I couldn`t be quiet.

[magter3001]

Just pointing out that Engineers aren't the only ones that can (and do) aoe through walls...

Just because you are capable, does not mean you should. I know that I on purpose, go out of my way, to not spam AoEs through walls. There will always be pricks on both sides who find it amusing to resort to that kind of behavior.

Just the other night I was going to flame two Choppas on my side for purposefully AoEing through walls before I saw a Slayer do the same darn thing. I guess we gotta deal with it for the time being.

[grumcajs]

if u cant defeat them, join them. actually by not aoe through walls you cripple your realm

[vzarnlcaf]

Yeah, really no sense in blaming it on a class or realm specifically, sense it can be done most classes and both realms. Best advice comes from magter3001 "we gotta deal with it for the time being"

[Telen]

Its got to the stage now even if you call people out they just say its not an exploit as everyone's doing it. Really you would expect the larger and 'pro' guilds to help by discouraging it by warning and kicking but most of the people I see doing it are members of them including the leaders.

[Druin]

Well most people occasionally spam AoE through walls, but lately there are some Engis who seemingly do nothing else (at keep fights most of the time).

[magter3001]

Well most people occasionally spam AoE through walls, but lately there are some Engis who seemingly do nothing else (at keep fights most of the time).

Then you know what to do, kill engys first. Then again, that's super hard due to them having an AoE knockdown and an AoE root. I'm starting to think which Order class is worse now, SW or Engineers.

[Renork]

I remember keep fights before I deleted my magus. There were 2-3 engs. who would pop their morale 2 and aoe through the walls and from up the stairs. Ouch, no heals meant dying xD, especially if flames of rhuin procced.