Why is there no 3rd sov set?

[Valfaros]

As the title says. I logged in on my dps dok after a long pause and saw there is no dps dok sov set. Being pretty bummed about it I wondered why it wasn't decided to just put a 3rd merchant there with the 3rd set option. I had the same problem on my st dps zealot (ye haha) where I had to buy the heal set to get the correct 6 pt bonus as I wanted the skillpoints. Luckily this is somewhat a option on zealot thanks to the harbinger but you still get some set boni that are rather meh on a dps.

If it would ever be decided to add the 3rd set afterall a conversion of items would be well appreciated.

[Rydiak]

Did you miss the Warlord vendor?

[ravezaar]

Warlord is like the 3rd Sov set, always bin. Armor value abit lower then Sov but stats are damn close. Warlord is DW-dps for DoK. Then Sov is Heal and off-Sov is Shield

[Valfaros]

Warlord is like the 3rd Sov set, always bin. Armor value abit lower then Sov but stats are damn close. Warlord is DW-dps for DoK. Then Sov is Heal and off-Sov is Shield

Never been the case. Cause there never was such a thing as shield dok. Neither is damn close the same. Honestly I'm not surprised by these comments. The good old tough luck for your skill tree. Better settle with the second best. It is pretty close anyway. Are you running around with warlord on all your character then? It's pretty close afterall why bother if it doesn't matter? Like you have 5 80+ you must wear warlord on all of them as the difference is not there right?

There is no reason to deny a option for each skill tree to gain the best gear level which is sov.

[Omegus]

Warlord is like the 3rd Sov set, always bin. Armor value abit lower then Sov but stats are damn close. Warlord is DW-dps for DoK. Then Sov is Heal and off-Sov is Shield

Never been the case. Cause there never was such a thing as shield dok. Neither is damn close the same. Honestly I'm not surprised by these comments. The good old tough luck for your skill tree. Better settle with the second best. It is pretty close anyway. Are you running around with warlord on all your character then? It's pretty close afterall why bother if it doesn't matter? Like you have 5 80+ you must wear warlord on all of them as the difference is not there right?

There is no reason to deny a option for each skill tree to gain the best gear level which is sov.

The "always bin" was about the power level for warlord, not that it was for shield DoK. Also I'll say it now: I can't remember on live the power difference between warlord and sov, but on ROR the power gap between sets is much smaller anyway. I'm just pointing out what the other person meant, no whether it was actually true.

Depending on set bonuses and itemisation, full Sov or even partial Sov isn't always the best for characters even if it technically has a higher item level. Sov gear might have the highest item level, but that does not mean that it is always the best option for your spec/class/role/etc, especially when it comes to mixing and matching sets optimally.

[lemao]

Maybe you should take a closer look at the (warlord) set/pieces before starting a rant.
It has the best stats for wp/dok on single pieces you could ask for (like 4% flat parry on the chest), it´s amazing and better designed compared to all other classes.

[Valfaros]

I did and the set seriously lacks crit in turn for the same amount of armor penetration a horrible trade. You speak of 4% parry while sov gets 4% block a way better stat (zealot gains 18% more stats and ap also a better trade in my eye). The set further lacks initiative base stats which as dok with the lowerst base init will force you into having to pay for it either through rr or talis. But we can further discuss how good this set is. Overall it looses about 10% stats. It's not to scoff at tbh. But all of this doesn't matter I don't see how more variety in sets can be a bad thing which somehow forces these snarky comments about how I haven't considered the previous level set. I guess running opposition is fun.

The actual cost to just add a 3rd set for the 3rd tree is quite small and this would be worthwhile for most classes.

[Telther]

How much do you block as a dual wield dok….

[Omegus]

I did and the set seriously lacks crit in turn for the same amount of armor penetration a horrible trade. You speak of 4% parry while sov gets 4% block a way better stat (zealot gains 18% more stats and ap also a better trade in my eye). The set further lacks initiative base stats which as dok with the lowerst base init will force you into having to pay for it either through rr or talis. But we can further discuss how good this set is. Overall it looses about 10% stats. It's not to scoff at tbh. But all of this doesn't matter I don't see how more variety in sets can be a bad thing which somehow forces these snarky comments about how I haven't considered the previous level set. I guess running opposition is fun.

The actual cost to just add a 3rd set for the 3rd tree is quite small and this would be worthwhile for most classes.

You're missing that the Warlord and Sovereign sets were designed and released together as a set of sets: one set per mastery path. Two of the three mastery paths were assigned to Sovereign sets and the final mastery path was assigned the Warlord set. If the path chosen for the Warlord set (Torture?) had been chosen to be one of the Sovereign sets then it would have the same stats and set bonuses as now but with very slightly higher numbers to reflect the increase to item level.

If you want new itemisation and bonuses for a 3rd Sov set, then wouldn't that mean we also need 2 new Warlord sets with different itemisation for the other two paths?

[agemennon675]

I personally cant see the logical reason behind not making an equal sov set for 3rd specs other than personal hate towards those specs