The Immortal Tank

[tazdingo]

I'm pretty sure we are talking about hypothethical competition where we go to fort and have tanks go in one by one into order blob. Winner is the one who survives the longest.

then ib with m2 because nobody else is surviving longer than 5 seconds regardless of build

We can safely assume that he doesnt get to m2.

then a block stacking bo who pops you wot + wez bigger to avoid kds and walks in spamming chm

[Cyrylius]

then ib with m2 because nobody else is surviving longer than 5 seconds regardless of build

We can safely assume that he doesnt get to m2.

then a block stacking bo who pops you wot + wez bigger to avoid kds and walks in spamming chm

would it be better thank BG with 1200 toughness spamming NSP?

[tazdingo]

We can safely assume that he doesnt get to m2.

then a block stacking bo who pops you wot + wez bigger to avoid kds and walks in spamming chm

would it be better thank BG with 1200 toughness spamming NSP?

yeah nsp is garbage is just gets interrupted then has a 30sec cd

[Cyrylius]

then a block stacking bo who pops you wot + wez bigger to avoid kds and walks in spamming chm

would it be better thank BG with 1200 toughness spamming NSP?

yeah nsp is garbage is just gets interrupted then has a 30sec cd

Youll be getting attacked form behind too much for CHM to be this broken. Also too many AoE interrupts anyway. BG has more base tankiness and avoidances.

[Duukar]

Fools fools and more fools!

BO easily gets 900 tough and 1050HP and 4900 armor.

Then gets 70%block and 53% parry and ~45% dodge and disrupt with everything up.

Then add You Wot!?!!! For 6600 armor!!! 85% block 68% parry and 60% dodge and disrupt.

Then add Can’t Hit Me for 135% block!!

Then you add 350 resists from dmg type taken and an addition 200 armor Over a basic armor pot.

Then you include Hardy Concessions 4 for flat 10% dmg reduction. Make sure you crank your reduced armor pen for another 10% flat dmg reduction. No need for FS. Already below 0% to be crit!!!!


No one can kill the Warboss! Many have tried but they crumble as they were smote down to the ground!!!

[Tesq]

7 pcs sov 2 pcs triumphant, full toughness talis, toughness event item, tactic and pot gets you to almost 1200. could be higher with 2 pcs vanq, that gets you to 1250 depending on what event item you use. I will admit however that by not using vanq you lose 50 toughness but get 2 more sov bonuses, which are probably more useful. Anyway, you slap 45% buff on top of whatever your toughness is, and up it to softcapped 1700-1800.
EDIT: double checked and min maxed, highest nosoftcapped toughness value i could get on BG was 2050, and i dont think getting any more is possible with the items currently in game.

Ankward last time i try the % increase it got halved due soft cap. Gotta re try things then.

[Cyrylius]

7 pcs sov 2 pcs triumphant, full toughness talis, toughness event item, tactic and pot gets you to almost 1200. could be higher with 2 pcs vanq, that gets you to 1250 depending on what event item you use. I will admit however that by not using vanq you lose 50 toughness but get 2 more sov bonuses, which are probably more useful. Anyway, you slap 45% buff on top of whatever your toughness is, and up it to softcapped 1700-1800.
EDIT: double checked and min maxed, highest nosoftcapped toughness value i could get on BG was 2050, and i dont think getting any more is possible with the items currently in game.

Ankward last time i try the % increase it got halved due soft cap. Gotta re try things then.

Well, I'm calculating non softcapped stats, cause I don't have enough brainpower to calculate 22,5% of current value. 2050 however equals 1550 with softcap, which is much more than any dps would need to be brought down to 0 damage modifier. Worth noting that 1650 is hardcap, so getting more than 2250 is actually meaningless.

[Detangler]

Any Order tank is tankier than Destro counterparts, simply because no Order tank has to deal with a BS ability that ignores all block/parry. Seriously all the Order apologists who never play Destro and defend this ability to their dying days have no idea how much this ability affects the gameplay balance. Of the destro Tanks, IB/Knight are far superior to the SM in this role.

[Tesq]

7 pcs sov 2 pcs triumphant, full toughness talis, toughness event item, tactic and pot gets you to almost 1200. could be higher with 2 pcs vanq, that gets you to 1250 depending on what event item you use. I will admit however that by not using vanq you lose 50 toughness but get 2 more sov bonuses, which are probably more useful. Anyway, you slap 45% buff on top of whatever your toughness is, and up it to softcapped 1700-1800.
EDIT: double checked and min maxed, highest nosoftcapped toughness value i could get on BG was 2050, and i dont think getting any more is possible with the items currently in game.

Ankward last time i try the % increase it got halved due soft cap. Gotta re try things then.

Well, I'm calculating non softcapped stats, cause I don't have enough brainpower to calculate 22,5% of current value. 2050 however equals 1550 with softcap, which is much more than any dps would need to be brought down to 0 damage modifier. Worth noting that 1650 is hardcap, so getting more than 2250 is actually meaningless.

Ah now that make senss so its 650 above what i have now which is 120 dmg less after cap, not sure is worth what i lose by using a diff set up of what my bg use.

[Avernus]

Any Order tank is tankier than Destro counterparts, simply because no Order tank has to deal with a BS ability that ignores all block/parry. Seriously all the Order apologists who never play Destro and defend this ability to their dying days have no idea how much this ability affects the gameplay balance. Of the destro Tanks, IB/Knight are far superior to the SM in this role.

Sure, and the pullfest destro abuse has nothing to do with this. I say "fight broken things using your own broken things".