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Re: 19W - 66L T4 Destro toon

Post#11 » Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:03 am

you queue solo> you fighting premades

you queue as 6 man> you fighting vs solo queuers 90% of time

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Re: 19W - 66L T4 Destro toon

Post#12 » Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:33 am

aa91837 wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:03 am you queue solo> you fighting premades

you queue as 6 man> you fighting vs solo queuers 90% of time

Welcome to ROR
You make 6 man > you fight 2 x 6man premades.

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Re: 19W - 66L T4 Destro toon

Post#13 » Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:58 am

aa91837 wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:03 am you queue solo> you fighting premades

you queue as 6 man> you fighting vs solo queuers 90% of time

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yup - that's the current state of sc queuer

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Re: 19W - 66L T4 Destro toon

Post#14 » Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:11 am

Yes, and don´t know how it is on Order but if you queue on Destro with DD or Tank u don´t have healers, if u then log on Healer u have 6+ of them in sc...

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Re: 19W - 66L T4 Destro toon

Post#15 » Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:48 am

Butzinjo wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:11 am Yes, and don´t know how it is on Order but if you queue on Destro with DD or Tank u don´t have healers, if u then log on Healer u have 6+ of them in sc...
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Re: 19W - 66L T4 Destro toon

Post#16 » Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:38 pm

So looks like for the last 30 days

Order - 3811 characters played in an sc and averaged 47 kills
Destro - 3713 characters played in an sc and averaged 47 kills

Looks pretty even to me with 47 kills vs 47 kills on average

Slayer = 319 played averaging 132 kills
Choppa = 305 played averaging 125 kills
White Lion = 317 played averaging 104 kills
Witch Elf = 313 played averaging 100 kills
Witch Hunter = 312 played averaging 98 kills
Marauder = 234 played averaging 67 kills

Squig Herder = 292 played averaging 90 kills
Sorcerer = 250 played averaging 83 kills
Shadow Warrior = 289 played averaging 72 kills
Bright Wizard = 274 played averaging 67 kills
Magus = 168 played averaging 53 kills
Engineer = 235 played averaging 45 kills

Disciple = 339 played averaging 17 kills
Archmage = 332 played averaging 12 kills
Shaman = 436 played averaging 11 kills
Warrior Priest = 415 played averaging 9 kills
Rune Priest = 344 played averaging 1 kill
Zealot = 325 played averaging 1 kill

Swordmaster = 244 played averaging 23 kills
Blackguard = 262 played averaging 20 kills
Black Orc = 279 played averaging 16 kills
Chosen = 409 played averaging 14 kills
Iron Breaker = 274 played averaging 14 kills
Knight = 351 played averaging 4 kills (I know right -- Nothing to see here folks)

These numbers are just for rr50 plus which is really true numbers if you want to see end game type Scenario true numbers.

Numbers taken from https://www.rvrstats.additionweb.co.uk/
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Re: 19W - 66L T4 Destro toon

Post#17 » Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:07 pm

Spoiler:
Emissary wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:38 pm So looks like for the last 30 days

Order - 3811 characters played in an sc and averaged 47 kills
Destro - 3713 characters played in an sc and averaged 47 kills

Looks pretty even to me with 47 kills vs 47 kills on average

Slayer = 319 played averaging 132 kills
Choppa = 305 played averaging 125 kills
White Lion = 317 played averaging 104 kills
Witch Elf = 313 played averaging 100 kills
Witch Hunter = 312 played averaging 98 kills
Marauder = 234 played averaging 67 kills

Squig Herder = 292 played averaging 90 kills
Sorcerer = 250 played averaging 83 kills
Shadow Warrior = 289 played averaging 72 kills
Bright Wizard = 274 played averaging 67 kills
Magus = 168 played averaging 53 kills
Engineer = 235 played averaging 45 kills

Disciple = 339 played averaging 17 kills
Archmage = 332 played averaging 12 kills
Shaman = 436 played averaging 11 kills
Warrior Priest = 415 played averaging 9 kills
Rune Priest = 344 played averaging 1 kill
Zealot = 325 played averaging 1 kill

Swordmaster = 244 played averaging 23 kills
Blackguard = 262 played averaging 20 kills
Black Orc = 279 played averaging 16 kills
Chosen = 409 played averaging 14 kills
Iron Breaker = 274 played averaging 14 kills
Knight = 351 played averaging 4 kills (I know right -- Nothing to see here folks)

These numbers are just for rr50 plus which is really true numbers if you want to see end game type Scenario true numbers.

Numbers taken from https://www.rvrstats.additionweb.co.uk/
Looking at those stats you'd think SC's are even battles.

In reality the SC's are almost always 1 sided blow outs.

I think we have players with multiple high level toons that rotate through their characters for weekend events. They steamroll to a 90% win rate, but since they do it on both order and destro we have numbers like this and it seems balanced.
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Re: 19W - 66L T4 Destro toon

Post#18 » Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:21 pm

bittrio wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:07 pm In reality the SC's are almost always 1 sided blow outs.

I think we have players with multiple high level toons that rotate through their characters for weekend events. They steamroll to a 90% win rate, but since they do it on both order and destro we have numbers like this and it seems balanced.
so the better equipped, better organized and better playing people are winning more ? is that wrong ?


(btw: SC's are nearly always a 1 sided show .. even if high level 6 man meet each other ... most of the time the skill gap betweenthem is big enough that its onesided too )

You can rarely have balanced fights in a game that is soo complex and has such a small Playerbase
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Re: 19W - 66L T4 Destro toon

Post#19 » Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:58 pm

Sigh... People need to really need to stop looking at their stats and believing that their experience is the norm. Here's how I did this weekend completing the Battlemarsh event. 16 matches, all solo queue, 50% win rate. After the first 4 games I wasn't even trying to win because I already had the 3 wins needed for the event. The only thing that disappointed me was that it took more than the 10 required games to get 150 kills.

I've said this before, and I'll probably be ignored yet again.

When the only common denominator in a large and varied series of events ending in the same result is YOU - then YOU are the problem.

You need closely examine how you are playing and then adjust. There is something you're doing wrong, be it guarding the wrong teammate, attacking the wrong target, being out of position, not using the right tactics or not healing efficiently. I can't tell you precisely what that is, it is something that can only be determined by you, by changing the way you play in small increments over time. Stop doing things that obviously aren't working for you and try something new, even if it seems counter intuitive.

Change up the way you play. Ignore the conventional wisdom, take risks, go ham. Find what works for you and makes you happy, then do it.

Or you could just keep doing the same thing over and over expecting different results, but that's the definition of madness...

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Re: 19W - 66L T4 Destro toon

Post#20 » Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:28 am

bittrio wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:07 pm
Spoiler:
Emissary wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:38 pm So looks like for the last 30 days

Order - 3811 characters played in an sc and averaged 47 kills
Destro - 3713 characters played in an sc and averaged 47 kills

Looks pretty even to me with 47 kills vs 47 kills on average

Slayer = 319 played averaging 132 kills
Choppa = 305 played averaging 125 kills
White Lion = 317 played averaging 104 kills
Witch Elf = 313 played averaging 100 kills
Witch Hunter = 312 played averaging 98 kills
Marauder = 234 played averaging 67 kills

Squig Herder = 292 played averaging 90 kills
Sorcerer = 250 played averaging 83 kills
Shadow Warrior = 289 played averaging 72 kills
Bright Wizard = 274 played averaging 67 kills
Magus = 168 played averaging 53 kills
Engineer = 235 played averaging 45 kills

Disciple = 339 played averaging 17 kills
Archmage = 332 played averaging 12 kills
Shaman = 436 played averaging 11 kills
Warrior Priest = 415 played averaging 9 kills
Rune Priest = 344 played averaging 1 kill
Zealot = 325 played averaging 1 kill

Swordmaster = 244 played averaging 23 kills
Blackguard = 262 played averaging 20 kills
Black Orc = 279 played averaging 16 kills
Chosen = 409 played averaging 14 kills
Iron Breaker = 274 played averaging 14 kills
Knight = 351 played averaging 4 kills (I know right -- Nothing to see here folks)

These numbers are just for rr50 plus which is really true numbers if you want to see end game type Scenario true numbers.

Numbers taken from https://www.rvrstats.additionweb.co.uk/
Looking at those stats you'd think SC's are even battles.

In reality the SC's are almost always 1 sided blow outs.

I think we have players with multiple high level toons that rotate through their characters for weekend events. They steamroll to a 90% win rate, but since they do it on both order and destro we have numbers like this and it seems balanced.
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