yes it was easier to grind gear. i started ror in january 2022, getting pre-invader stuff was super easy and you could've even gotten it on SW before you had hit rr that was required to wear certain piece of armor. and that was without me having to think, "oh do i need to play pve, rvr, or sc?". i was playing everything, and wasn't even bothered with fact sc were giving different currency, in fact it was even better, since it gave you weapons. also you had extra blue and purple items from zonelock bags for <40 levels.Stimpz wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:07 pmIt was easier to grind gear?rejndjer wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:28 am while lockdowns were on, there was no crests(at least not in current form). it was easier to grind gear. it's very sad how much harder it is for new players to become competitive now compared to few years ago or on live. ROR is too grindy. couple that with bad mechanic feedback of skill usage and you get what you see. bad retention.
p.s. inb4 someone comes and says "you can only play sc now and get everything". yes im happy for you.
It was never so easy to get your gear as it is now.
You can get your Invader Ward in 4 Days. 4 Days to unlock the potential to get the best gear in the game. If you are lucky, Bloodlord is already a good set to be competitive.
After that, it is really not that long to get Sov.
I, personally, don't miss the old days when you had to play cities at 3 am for a few tokens.
If a new player plays to 40 and grind throw all sets without ever asking anyone or reading any kind of guide, then it's not the system's fault for being too "grindy".
Also, you don't have to farm ~10,000 crests and buy your Sov-set all at once.
You get the feeling of steady progress cause normally you buy like 2 or 3 items and mix them with other sets, or you begin with a few Triumphant/Victorious items, which are really fast to get.
Some people seem to hate playing MMORPGs where leveling, gearing and yes, even a bit grinding is part of the core game.
There is not even a skill-gate in RoR to get your gear.
The new system is good.
If you want to tell a new player how it goes, now you can say,
"Play every class you like in every mode you want. You get Crests for good gear in almost every way you play."
In the old system it was more like
"Yo watch out. If you play a healer you don't get good gear from scenarios, you have to play RvR. The best gear is only available in Cities, but to get there you need at least full Invader, which only comes from Forts. There is also stuff from dungeons, but they have a few days lockout timer, so you have to play 8 weeks (or so) to get your trinket. And don't forget to always watch out for Cities because they are only open if two forts got taken by one faction, which can happen at any time, so if you miss them you don't get your Sov gear at all."... And so on.
I personally think that the new system is very new-player-friendly.
It's easy to learn and the amount of time you need for gear is fair.
i've seen many people say here how renown gain was higher before and how it got nerfed. i played SW on live, i remember how it was back then. i got sov there in month or two. i still dont have sov here.
"4 days to get your invader ward". can you pls gtfo with this kinds of argument. i hate pve, and some 50% of playerbase that play this game H A T E pve. also to do that in 4 days you need a dedicated party. i dont wanna bother my guildies thru all that boredom so i could twink my alt in 4 days. it's just not worth it. i'd rather play the game. if you want to force us to play pve or scenarios, just delete rvr, then i can delete ROR and reinstall gw2, and we can all be happy.
"Some people seem to hate playing MMORPGs where leveling, gearing and yes, even a bit grinding is part of the core game."
there's a thin blue line between leveling and grinding, and ROR has crossed it big time. gear and level progression is pretty fast untill you get conq. then vanq takes you quite a while. then invader takes you a lot longer. then sov takes u as much time as everything before. that's not EVEN CLOSE to how it was on live and you all know it.
im done. looks like you people here just love unfair fights where you can trash on new people who have no mathematical chance of killing you even if you stood there afk for 2 minutes.
