How much crit can AM stack?

[Sulorie]

Over 40 and below 50 % unless a knight buffs you but we don't know what debuffs you had.
Your mitigation is quite good.

Thanks for the help, I didn't realize they could get so much.
Do AM typically slot their disrupt-reduction talent?

They are less gifted with good tactics and therefore it is ok to slot that tactic, as there are "only" 3 mandatory tactics for DPS spec.

[Absinth]

pls remeber that having 0% CTBC dosen't mean you can't get crits, it just means you dont give your opponend adition chances, so if AM have 40% ctit of its own, you will still get Critted.

he still should have it at like -3% causing them to be not this common. Well still its just a random chance maybe its just lucky AM with fully stacked crit chance.

Even with full FS and reduce crit lini with 250 ini. You'll only be at around -30%(total) from your initial ~15%. That means if your enemy has 40% crit chance. They'll still crit you 25% of the time.. Afaik, with max reduce crit, there's no way to completely avoid getting crit by a class that builds pure crit. Main reason for that is due to the fact all classes have a chance to be crit at around 15%.

Okay then i was living in wrong, good to know how it works, I once asked and answer was matching with what i knew soo i thought its the case, I also never got those crazy amounts of crits on my dok despite not being the highest on init + pretty much often debuffed one way or another soo i never questioned it.

[RORquest]

Yes crit is broken and there's no reason for the flat -chance to be crit

[doky]

to answer the question, AM can stack 50+ crit

[rejndjer]

wait i thought if someone has 40% crit chance, and is targeting "-10%" ctbc target, then his chance to crit target is 40%?? because your chance to be crit is limited at 0%, with extra 10% reduction only thing you're getting is being able to take some -initiative debuff/bonus chance to be critted debuff. so for instance if +15% crit chance on target debuff gets applied to the -10% cbtc target, then that target has 35% chance to be crit, whereas 0% cbtc target would get critted 25% of time, no? (assuming attacker has 40% crit chance.)

[Sulorie]

wait i thought if someone has 40% crit chance, and is targeting "-10%" ctbc target, then his chance to crit target is 40%?? because your chance to be crit is limited at 0%, with extra 10% reduction only thing you're getting is being able to take some -initiative debuff/bonus chance to be critted debuff. so for instance if +15% crit chance on target debuff gets applied to the -10% cbtc target, then that target has 35% chance to be crit, whereas 0% cbtc target would get critted 25% of time, no? (assuming attacker has 40% crit chance.)

When you have true -20% ctbc and your attacker has 30% crit rate, then they have just 10% crit rate on you. Stacking negative ctbc basically reduces enemy crit rate as long as you can keep it negative despite debuffs.

Furthermore there is no default ctbc for players but different classes have variing initiative base stats and therefore different ctbc values.

[jibeta281]

Not to mention skills that always crit but i think all of them have some sort of cd that does not make them spammable
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[vanbuinen77]

You need 300 inititive minimum to account for debuffs, then stack -ctbc

[Scottx125]

wait i thought if someone has 40% crit chance, and is targeting "-10%" ctbc target, then his chance to crit target is 40%?? because your chance to be crit is limited at 0%, with extra 10% reduction only thing you're getting is being able to take some -initiative debuff/bonus chance to be critted debuff. so for instance if +15% crit chance on target debuff gets applied to the -10% cbtc target, then that target has 35% chance to be crit, whereas 0% cbtc target would get critted 25% of time, no? (assuming attacker has 40% crit chance.)

Everyone by default has around 15% chance to be crit by default. Meaning if you go full into Futile Strikes, that gives you -24% to be critically hit. So that in reality means you sit at -9% to be critically hit. So if someone is running around with 30% crit chance. They have a 21% chance to crit you. If you don't invest in reduce crit, they have a 45% chance to crit you.

[Sulorie]

Everyone by default has around 15% chance to be crit by default. Meaning if you go full into Futile Strikes, that gives you -24% to be critically hit. So that in reality means you sit at -9% to be critically hit. So if someone is running around with 30% crit chance. They have a 21% chance to crit you. If you don't invest in reduce crit, they have a 45% chance to crit you.

Where do you pull the 15% from? Afaik there is a base heal crit chance because even with 0% heal crit on your char you can critical heal.
Offensive crit is based in your base initiative value which is different for each class. It should be on average around 15% but some low init classes have higher ctbc.