How to know ppl arn´t enjoying endgame

[Gladiolix]

Cities are just the worst content in this game. 90% of the instances are total complete stomps (throwing numbers out of my ass here), sucks a lot to get farmed at spawn, very boring to farm at the spawn, sucks either way. Then there are the 10% that actually competent and close fights. As a tank or healer you work your ass off guard swapping, etc. tank duties or healing, rezzing etc. heal duties. After the first half an hour of constant combat without any breaks it's starting to feel like a chore. Once the sweaty city is over and dare you to lose, the game pretty much gives you the finger, with rewards not really worth your input. If you manage to get good bags, that might redeem it, but god forbid you roll bad and get zero bags, leaves you with pretty shitty fealing. So with something like every 1/20 city is actually fun, I just can't bring myself to queue even though it usually is worth the time in terms of warcrests per hour.

Had a couple hour long city once, where I was healing with shaman, rezzed like 50+ people during it, and was one of the top heal. I got zero bags and lost with crappy crests. Swore myself back then that I will never bring a healer to a city again

or you play Kotbs in a good ST party in city .... worst contribution possible no dmg/ if it runs smooth - nearly no potection ! the contribution is non existant on a kotbs.

And on the far other end are BO/SM, spam your aoe bubble and run wounds bellow with extra healing tactic and win the highest bag in every phase Classes are on very different tiers for rewards in cities.

[Phantasm]

I think city is at best state ever. We got premade 6mans, 12mans and full WB queuing, solo also if lucky can get decent instance. Rewards arnt bad compared to 0 crests when on losing side 2 years ago.
So it besically goes down to what you want to do.
One of advantages is you face same amount of opponents, which for some seems downside

[HammerGuy]

It's boring. That is the most unforgivable aspect of any game. Win or lose, it has rarely been fun. Whenever I see an ongoing or upcoming city siege I grumble about the lack of scenario pops.

Whatever happened to the really old setup for city when it was a massive battle with hundreds of players on each side? Why is that not a thing anymore? Why do fortress battles feel more large-scale than city battles?

[Omegus]

Whatever happened to the really old setup for city when it was a massive battle with hundreds of players on each side? Why is that not a thing anymore? Why do fortress battles feel more large-scale than city battles?

Cities have never had hundreds of players on either side, neither on live or ROR. IIRC the original siege system was 48x48 instances, and I cannot remember what the second version of the siege system from live used for population. ROR uses the second system from live capped at 24x24.

If the live city sieges were not instanced then a big chunk of my guild (and server...) from live wouldn't have quit once we finally pushed the campaign to the city and found out it was a big scenario

[Ninjagon]

I like the cities and I like to crush enemies and faction boss within.
Just add there some fresh revisions (like double-strong cannon to protect respawn point) and a few unique rewards.

For example: What about some city-unique consumables like one + 900 armor pot in the bag?

[Zxul]

I like the cities and I like to crush enemies and faction boss within.
Just add there some fresh revisions (like double-strong cannon to protect respawn point) and a few unique rewards.

For example: What about some city-unique consumables like one + 900 armor pot in the bag?

Worth noting that on my toons I no longer use armor pots when roaming- will rather use resist pots instead.

[Detangler]

Whatever happened to the really old setup for city when it was a massive battle with hundreds of players on each side? Why is that not a thing anymore? Why do fortress battles feel more large-scale than city battles?

Cities have never had hundreds of players on either side, neither on live or ROR. IIRC the original siege system was 48x48 instances, and I cannot remember what the second version of the siege system from live used for population. ROR uses the second system from live capped at 24x24.

If the live city sieges were not instanced then a big chunk of my guild (and server...) from live wouldn't have quit once we finally pushed the campaign to the city and found out it was a big scenario

I only ever played live during thr 48x48 instance hopping Era hoping to get into one where you could farm the PQ with no resistance for maximum crests. Now while

I definitely prefer this version over that live city siege, the current system on RoR has issues.

-Lopsided scenarios are amplified when you're stuck fighting the same scenario for an hour.
-No system to replace quitters, making point #1 even worse.
-Aesthetically the entire city scenario just feels empty. if you're going to go from hundreds of players to 24v24, at least give us hordes of some NPCs that respawn into battles to slay. Make it feel like we're at the tip of the start of a battle, not the clean up crew that missed all the fun.

[Asderas27]

I like the cities and I like to crush enemies and faction boss within.
Just add there some fresh revisions (like double-strong cannon to protect respawn point) and a few unique rewards.

For example: What about some city-unique consumables like one + 900 armor pot in the bag?

Who are you guys crushing with your last minute queues

[Kloaner]

90% of the instances are total complete stomps (throwing numbers out of my ass here), sucks a lot to get farmed at spawn, very boring to farm at the spawn, sucks either way. Then there are the 10% that actually competent and close fights.

isn't it that same for oRvR? right now there is a fort 86vs26, is that the thrilling fight you search for? 80% - 90% of the Day, it's one Faction that dominates the lakes and believes, taking down a keep lord is a great achievement.

[Ninjagon]

I like the cities and I like to crush enemies and faction boss within.
Just add there some fresh revisions (like double-strong cannon to protect respawn point) and a few unique rewards.

For example: What about some city-unique consumables like one + 900 armor pot in the bag?

Who are you guys crushing with your last minute queues

My post was constructive to the topic.
Yours?
/lol