First, nefarian is talking explicitly about smallscale where 3 target slow is essentially uncapped AoE. Blork slow does not exist in ST spec for a couple of reasons, those reasons being tactic slot starvation and 20% not being enough to compete against the golden standard of snares, namely BG/IB version. And i know that because i had to play 6v6 with blork and with no BG lack of mobiliy just does not let you play into most groups. Secondly, kotbs would be mandatory in every group even with no snare tactic, just like chosen is. Thirdly, even in AoE (where blork actually can be justified over BG sometimes) you want precisely 2 BGs (one might be SnB, but at least one 2H) just to keep 100% uptime on wave of scorn snare. And since WoS has better area of effect and is also more potent and is also undefendable and is also tied to no opportunity cost ability slot you are taking the blork slow only because you have no other utility for 24 man to speak of and blork defensive cooldowns are strong enough to keep it alive in orvr. So those are the three reasons why kotbs snare tactic is better than blork snare tactic.
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Re: [BO]dulled down
RoR doesnt deserve being taken seriously.
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CoV is an easier aoe snare option for dest
A reasonable RvR system that could make the majority happy http://imgur.com/HL6cgl7
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Rampage is only part of it. Inevitable doom is far better than GTDC. GTDC is a funny and annoying ability but it doesn't compare to the damage that ID can do.Moonbiter wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 6:39 amIsnt the Rampage removal/nerf sealed?Nefarian78 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 11:14 amNot being able to punt BOs as far sounds fun in paper but in actuality it would be a balance nightmare to the point of breaking the fundamentals of 6v6. Kill conditions are built on punting tanks and the moment you can't do that you only further encourage the strongest and most popular 6v6 comp on order which is double slayer, since the kill condition for that comp isn't necessarily requiring of punts/KD, you just tunnel vision through it with raw pressure.
Inb4 but dwarf KD racial tactic. Yes, Stoutness of Stone is also precisely in the same spot and should've never been a thing, let alone after the guard swap changes. Two wrongs don't make a right.
So, unpuntable may be not unbalanced in dat way.
All they'd have to do to figure out how broken some things are is swap class mechanics for a week or month.
Swap Chop/Slayer and BO/SM for 1month and see how many people suddenly want actual balance.
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issue here is, swapping bo with SM would actually make BO much better than it is currently for warband play.eerytraveler wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 8:20 pmRampage is only part of it. Inevitable doom is far better than GTDC. GTDC is a funny and annoying ability but it doesn't compare to the damage that ID can do.Moonbiter wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 6:39 amIsnt the Rampage removal/nerf sealed?Nefarian78 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 11:14 am
Not being able to punt BOs as far sounds fun in paper but in actuality it would be a balance nightmare to the point of breaking the fundamentals of 6v6. Kill conditions are built on punting tanks and the moment you can't do that you only further encourage the strongest and most popular 6v6 comp on order which is double slayer, since the kill condition for that comp isn't necessarily requiring of punts/KD, you just tunnel vision through it with raw pressure.
Inb4 but dwarf KD racial tactic. Yes, Stoutness of Stone is also precisely in the same spot and should've never been a thing, let alone after the guard swap changes. Two wrongs don't make a right.
So, unpuntable may be not unbalanced in dat way.
All they'd have to do to figure out how broken some things are is swap class mechanics for a week or month.
Swap Chop/Slayer and BO/SM for 1month and see how many people suddenly want actual balance.
RoR doesnt deserve being taken seriously.
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swap, Swap, Swap!, SWAAAAAGHP!!eerytraveler wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 8:20 pm Rampage is only part of it. Inevitable doom is far better than GTDC. GTDC is a funny and annoying ability but it doesn't compare to the damage that ID can do.
All they'd have to do to figure out how broken some things are is swap class mechanics for a week or month.
Swap Chop/Slayer and BO/SM for 1month and see how many people suddenly want actual balance.
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