War crest gain too low

[Maltar]

Actually the idea of making gear free, but locking the unlock of the gear tier behind a war crest cost, well it would make skipping gears not a thing, so lower the current meta of GB/city dungeon/BS and jump directly to ranked/sov, but rather do the content your gear needs. It would make mixing and matching sets be extremely available to everyone, odd janky builds and experiments would be fully viable.
The main cost of experimenting would be talisman slotting.

It would allow players that can't easily grind 40k crests+ to get to experience their classes offspec without spending ludicrous amounts of time to gear a single character. It would make the game in general a lot more enjoyable, and much more fun to experiment with. As it stands now, a build experiment can easily add weeks of grinding for something that turns out to be completely non-viable.

And players still need to earn their rewards, they just don't have to earn each variant several times over.

[Derpy]

First we had to grind dedicated rvr currency, even if we dislike zerging. With city siege during off hours many people had no chance to join them.
Then you get the chance/option to play any content we wish to gather crests. Now this is wrong too. Does this even stop?

With design like that, no wonder the game died back in the day...

Its better these days, but its still kinda bad. Several issues with it as people in this thread have already said.

[joroth]

Alternative option: renown gain is too fast.

i think its fair to say you can only play certain builds/"real" end game at the tri/invader level. As far as really being competitive. I think in modern-day its a bit much to ask new players to get slaughtered/farmed for at least 100 hours before they can me competitive. As someone who has 3 lvl 70+ chars Getting to this part is hardly "earning it" on top of that if you're a class who wants to theory craft/ mess around with different gear builds. crests are far far too slow.

And to me, this says that the gear gap is the bigger issue to be solved (which I agree with) rather than adding shortcuts to get to the useful gear tier (Vanq+).

luke warm take. I think current gearing is fun. (unless you're order and have to do CnT) i just think for off the boat new players they're just playing warbands and that grind is sooooo slow so it almost seems like they'll have to play for 300 hours just to get into sov. I just would like to see warbands get more reknown/crests and make the wards more flexable so its obtainable to get multiple sets to play around without needing 20-30k crests

[Ananelle]

not many people know this but there was "worn Soveregin" gear set on live. It was basicly like sov just nerfed,and you could buy it for gold if you had rr70+. Should be brought back here .

[akisnaakkeli]

not many people know this but there was "worn Soveregin" gear set on live. It was basicly like sov just nerfed,and you could buy it for gold if you had rr70+. Should be brought back here .

https://imgur.com/a/12hs6UG

It didnt even need rr 70, it was rr60-67. Worn Didnt have 8th piece bonus and set bonuses had a bit less stats and 7pc bonus for example have 7% avoidance instead of 10% like Sovereign has. They added Worn with rr100. And you got SUPER good renown like 20-30k in 1 sc before you dinged rr 70 or rr 80. Then it slowed. Also RoR should reallllllly bolster all under rr60 to lvl 41. This lvl45 Bolster in live was Lifesaver. RR100 is lvl 46 and rr 80 was lvl 41.

[Helwer]

i'm curious how long it will take myself getting bis as casual player starting from 0 sov, 0 trium, only 650 crests and less than 100 gold. Any expectations? currently rr65 with invader/vanquisher mix, 1 sc weapon, 1 subj weapon. hope my dwarf is stubborn enough lol

[Nameless]

For my chars from 0 to full sov (lvl 0 to rr80) it took me about 6 days ingame playtime.
If you need truiph ring it is abit more.
If you are part of regular premade group it is significantly lower time.
If you are new player and dont know very well the basics it will be much more

[BluIzLucky]

i'm curious how long it will take myself getting bis as casual player starting from 0 sov, 0 trium, only 650 crests and less than 100 gold. Any expectations? currently rr65 with invader/vanquisher mix, 1 sc weapon, 1 subj weapon. hope my dwarf is stubborn enough lol

Well, 10k for triumph ring + about 10k for 5p sov / 3p triumph gear + 1-2k for weapon/genesis, minus your 650, for a healthy total of 21k crests.

At a probably generous (for a casual ?newbie?) 100 crests per hour, means you have approximately 210 hours left before full BIS

And about half that if you are going for near-BIS without 10k ring.

Either way, enjoy the journey, soon it will be just around the corner!

[akisnaakkeli]

i'm curious how long it will take myself getting bis as casual player starting from 0 sov, 0 trium, only 650 crests and less than 100 gold. Any expectations? currently rr65 with invader/vanquisher mix, 1 sc weapon, 1 subj weapon. hope my dwarf is stubborn enough lol

Well, 10k for triumph ring + about 10k for 5p sov / 3p triumph gear + 1-2k for weapon/genesis, minus your 650, for a healthy total of 21k crests.

At a probably generous (for a casual ?newbie?) 100 crests per hour, means you have approximately 210 hours left before full BIS

And about half that if you are going for near-BIS without 10k ring.

Either way, enjoy the journey, soon it will be just around the corner!

Damn, for a new player starting(also to me asl well tbh) its insanely too much. And all punisment mechanics regarding anything like renown gain or when you solo que scs you etc, and add more rewarding mechanics like respawning in keeps until second door down and https://imgur.com/a/D70MJD6 And there is true chance to defend in RvR

Npc Champs lvl 41 to RvRO bjektives back with Clickable/Kilable Renown Carrrier. Rvr,Forts and Cities should give the old roll system that would give Gear Pieces in gold, Good wpns with good and different choices for procs offensive and defenive. And Blues would give good boe jewelries wpns and that would be high stats all classess can use all of them.

Boe Invader/Vict/Triumph Gloves and boots should drop in rvr from rr 60+ and under rr 60+ should get triple renown and untril rr 80 double renown. Boe Sove/Warlord/Offsove should have boots and gloves dropping from rr70 + players.

[Sulorie]

Damn, for a new player starting(also to me asl well tbh) its insanely too much. And all punisment mechanics regarding anything like renown gain or when you solo que scs you etc, and add more rewarding mechanics like respawning in keeps until second door down and https://imgur.com/a/D70MJD6 And there is true chance to defend in RvR

You need way less crests to get into proper gear in order to have an impact.
3pc sov is usually a starter to combine with 5pc of other lower tier sets.
With some tweaking you can compensate for a missing 10k jewel pretty well and keep it only as long term goal with no grind in mind, eventually you will have it.