remove surrender or add penalty

[mekal]

just came back to the game played 22 sc this weekend 17 of them were surrender votes in like the first 2 minutes

petition to give people that vote ssurrender 5-10 minute quitter

i say this as someone that was pure solo so dont think im trying to pug farm this happens even in discordant

[Helwer]

no, did pug-sc on order for one week now again and it is even with 4 minutes till surrender a waste of time. no heals - 500:0 getting farmed and receive a penalty means no more sc for lots of players.

[Nameless]

Surrender vote is available from 11th min of the scen. There are many scens that are stomps by that time and surrender vote helps to lesser the pain and the feeling for wasting your time.
It is not the surrender vote to be blame but the lack of comeback mechanics when in loosing position.

Devs even made that worse by implementing barriers and remove guard's kill renown.

So surrender vote is the least of scenarios problems

[mekal]

no, did pug-sc on order for one week now again and it is even with 4 minutes till surrender a waste of time. no heals - 500:0 getting farmed and receive a penalty means no more sc for lots of players.

so form a group or quit wasting other peoples time that want to just have fun

[juzziex]

no, did pug-sc on order for one week now again and it is even with 4 minutes till surrender a waste of time. no heals - 500:0 getting farmed and receive a penalty means no more sc for lots of players.

I think there's just a big problem with people only wanting easy fights in this game.

During 2x renown people were more willing to fight and I won so many SCs where we had no healers since people actually gave it a go. Even if we lost we were able to charge them and generate many kills before going down.

[bittrio]

Surrender vote is available from 11th min of the scen. There are many scens that are stomps by that time and surrender vote helps to lesser the pain and the feeling for wasting your time.
It is not the surrender vote to be blame but the lack of comeback mechanics when in loosing position.

Devs even made that worse by implementing barriers and remove guard's kill renown.

So surrender vote is the least of scenarios problems

Exactly. Give teams comeback mechanics. Seems obvious af.

[Nefarian78]

The penalty is getting 1 crest instead of whatever you should've gotten based on score.

Is it a real penalty? No, cause you'd have gotten nothing out of that loss even after fighting anyway. The problem isn't surrender, it's the game adding insult to injury after you've lost. Give a reason for people to try cause ain't nobody gonna waste 10minutes so they get 2 crests instead of 1.

[mekal]

Surrender vote is available from 11th min of the scen. There are many scens that are stomps by that time and surrender vote helps to lesser the pain and the feeling for wasting your time.
It is not the surrender vote to be blame but the lack of comeback mechanics when in loosing position.

Devs even made that worse by implementing barriers and remove guard's kill renown.

So surrender vote is the least of scenarios problems

Exactly. Give teams comeback mechanics. Seems obvious af.

comebck mechanics in pvp? lol isnt that just tilting the scales in balance sounds exactly anti fair play

the solution is the same as it always has been make a tem so you dont face those issues im asking for people that instant quit even in discordant to be locked out for a bit so we dont get spam surrenders like it is now when people dont get their instant stomp

The penalty is getting 1 crest instead of whatever you should've gotten based on score.

Is it a real penalty? No, cause you'd have gotten nothing out of that loss even after fighting anyway. The problem isn't surrender, it's the game adding insult to injury after you've lost. Give a reason for people to try cause ain't nobody gonna waste 10minutes so they get 2 crests instead of 1.

that is not a penalty that is an incentive for people to go afk and colllect free rewards basically an idle game

if you want even partial rewards you should have to participate not sit in spawn for 3 minutes

[bittrio]

Yes - comeback mechanics in pvp.

Guard kill renown would be a great 1st step. It's not a comeback mechanic, but at least when a team is getting spawn camped, they could punt over extending enemies into guards and get some kills.

Currently, there's no incentive to try. Everyone sits in spawn when getting farmed and rightly so. There's no way to turn the game around when you're outmatched.

Your option is to enable a surrender debuff so this already low pop game has even less people in que.

Instead of forcing people away, think of ways to make the game better for new and solo players. People aren't surrendering for no reason. It's because they are getting farmed.

Adding quitter debuff will make them turn off the game entirely, not entice different play behavior.

[Sulorie]

no, did pug-sc on order for one week now again and it is even with 4 minutes till surrender a waste of time. no heals - 500:0 getting farmed and receive a penalty means no more sc for lots of players.

so form a group or quit wasting other peoples time that want to just have fun

How much fun is your team being farmed?