Patch Notes 09/12/2023

[Kloaner]

any chance for the old version of "run away" ?

[Unionofchaos]

Pve feels very chaotic after the patch, lots of monsters are way tougher.
I also noticed unable to hold hate as a tank even on T1 lair bosses despite exclusively using hate abilities.

It was like that on Vanilla maybe some abilities are overtuned but before the patch mobs were dummies so now you need to be careful, and if you cant hold the hate then tell your party mate to download aggrometer addon...

[Caleb]

Pve feels very chaotic after the patch, lots of monsters are way tougher.
I also noticed unable to hold hate as a tank even on T1 lair bosses despite exclusively using hate abilities.

It was like that on Vanilla maybe some abilities are overtuned but before the patch mobs were dummies so now you need to be careful, and if you cant hold the hate then tell your party mate to download aggrometer addon...

So in Vanilla Tanks are unable to generate more aggro than the healer does in order to keep the tank alive? I seriously doubt that

[syntillate]

What level were you, did you have menace, taunt & challenge? We did t1 bosses at l4 and tanks couldn't hold agro pre patch obviously not having those skills.

[Unionofchaos]

Pve feels very chaotic after the patch, lots of monsters are way tougher.
I also noticed unable to hold hate as a tank even on T1 lair bosses despite exclusively using hate abilities.

It was like that on Vanilla maybe some abilities are overtuned but before the patch mobs were dummies so now you need to be careful, and if you cant hold the hate then tell your party mate to download aggrometer addon...

So in Vanilla Tanks are unable to generate more aggro than the healer does in order to keep the tank alive? I seriously doubt that

Its all about agrro if your healer making more than you by overhealing ofc the boss will stap target if dmg doing to lot dmg and not looking at aggro ofc boss will swap target. And as long you don't have menace tactic ofc aggro is harder to get. Before this patch i repeat you fought against dummies mobs.

[Caleb]

It was like that on Vanilla maybe some abilities are overtuned but before the patch mobs were dummies so now you need to be careful, and if you cant hold the hate then tell your party mate to download aggrometer addon...

So in Vanilla Tanks are unable to generate more aggro than the healer does in order to keep the tank alive? I seriously doubt that

Its all about agrro if your healer making more than you by overhealing ofc the boss will stap target if dmg doing to lot dmg and not looking at aggro ofc boss will swap target. And as long you don't have menace tactic ofc aggro is harder to get. Before this patch i repeat you fought against dummies mobs.

Healer is not overhealing - they can barely keep up healing tank to keep it alive, it's standard gameplay and Tank can't keep up.

How is a tank on level 15 supposed to have Menace Tactic exactly that unlocks on level 25?

[Unionofchaos]

So in Vanilla Tanks are unable to generate more aggro than the healer does in order to keep the tank alive? I seriously doubt that

Its all about agrro if your healer making more than you by overhealing ofc the boss will stap target if dmg doing to lot dmg and not looking at aggro ofc boss will swap target. And as long you don't have menace tactic ofc aggro is harder to get. Before this patch i repeat you fought against dummies mobs.

Healer is not overhealing - they can barely keep up healing tank to keep it alive, it's standard gameplay and Tank can't keep up.

How is a tank on level 15 supposed to have Menace Tactic exactly that unlocks on level 25?

Then tell your party member to care about their aggro ... Use your taunt just when you lost aggro that all.

[Caleb]

Then tell your party member to care about their aggro ... Use your taunt just when you lost aggro that all.

Excuse me but according to your last comment - you have no idea what you are talking about. So I should tell my healer, who has trouble keeping me alive as it is - to care about their aggro by stopping healing.

[Unionofchaos]

Then tell your party member to care about their aggro ... Use your taunt just when you lost aggro that all.

Excuse me but according to your last comment - you have no idea what you are talking about. So I should tell my healer, who has trouble keeping me alive as it is - to care about their aggro by stopping healing.

Waoooh im done continue yelling for nothing you just dont understant what a hero is now. Good luck

[syntillate]

So in Vanilla Tanks are unable to generate more aggro than the healer does in order to keep the tank alive? I seriously doubt that

Its all about agrro if your healer making more than you by overhealing ofc the boss will stap target if dmg doing to lot dmg and not looking at aggro ofc boss will swap target. And as long you don't have menace tactic ofc aggro is harder to get. Before this patch i repeat you fought against dummies mobs.

Healer is not overhealing - they can barely keep up healing tank to keep it alive, it's standard gameplay and Tank can't keep up.

How is a tank on level 15 supposed to have Menace Tactic exactly that unlocks on level 25?

You don't, it's kind of my point, at that level you don't have most of your agro mechanics, that hasn't changed and tanks don't do enough dmg to hold agro on their hate attack alone.