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Sever1n
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Re: For the love of god give WH a snare

Post#11 » Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:22 am

Does WE apply snare after jump finisher?

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Stinksuit
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Re: For the love of god give WH a snare

Post#12 » Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:38 am

Sever1n wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:22 am Does WE apply snare after jump finisher?
Yes

Sever1n
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Re: For the love of god give WH a snare

Post#13 » Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:25 am

So WE have pounce+snare with opening on demand. WH have armorshred that he can utilize only in 1 tree. Can WH have the mirror of that balanced skill that was added for WE with no reason and killed any chanses for some clasess like SW to kite them? Its verry funny to read those comments about shams not using speed tactic really and how its was nerfed. Try to chase 1 on WH. So u can understand the dif, wh opens on squig it jumps back wh uses oil to run to sh while it have knockback on top of knockdown/disarm/speedbuff/speedtactic/eatingpet. When WE opens on SW it imidiatly folows with her jump and aplly snare, and for some BALANCED reasons SW dont have any real panic buttons to counter that.
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Stinksuit
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Re: For the love of god give WH a snare

Post#14 » Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:30 am

Sever1n wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:25 am So WE have pounce+snare with opening on demand. WH have armorshred that he can utilize only in 1 tree. Can WH have the mirror of that balanced skill that was added for WE with no reason and killed any chanses for some clasess like SW to kite them? Its verry funny to read those comments about shams not using speed tactic really and how its was nerfed. Try to chase 1 on WH.
Sw can still quite easily kite WE, if they use their cc properly.

Sever1n
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Re: For the love of god give WH a snare

Post#15 » Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:39 am

U dont realise how it fk up gearing/rr/skillpoint/tactics? Not to mention it not works against regen abominations. SH can easily kite WH, but SW kite normal WE without sacrifice ton of dmg and go half regen gl with that. Ilove new topic where WE even demands buff=)

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Re: For the love of god give WH a snare

Post#16 » Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:43 am

Sever1n wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:25 am So WE have pounce+snare with opening on demand. WH have armorshred that he can utilize only in 1 tree. Can WH have the mirror of that balanced skill that was added for WE with no reason and killed any chanses for some clasess like SW to kite them? Its verry funny to read those comments about shams not using speed tactic really and how its was nerfed. Try to chase 1 on WH. So u can understand the dif, wh opens on squig it jumps back wh uses oil to run to sh while it have knockback on top of knockdown/disarm/speedbuff/speedtactic/eatingpet. When WE opens on SW it imidiatly folows with her jump and aplly snare, and for some BALANCED reasons SW dont have any real panic buttons to counter that.
Shamans and SH don't use the speed tactic because they don't need it. Also notice that shaman can cleanse WH's debuffs so the snare doesn't really stick
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Re: For the love of god give WH a snare

Post#17 » Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:31 am

I can see a world where WH/WE get a snare in return for stealth breaking from any dmg including AoE like WoW, then there is counter play. But not as a straight buff, both classes are in great shape.
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Avernus
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Re: For the love of god give WH a snare

Post#18 » Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:34 am

Stinksuit wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:30 am Sw can still quite easily kite WE, if they use their cc properly.
Devs are working on that, atm, your ranged kd its the st snare at the same time. You want to use your ranged snare and save your ranged kd for enemy's charge? No, you can't do that now, it's unfair! Oh, and don't forget to enjoy new snare rework! Juggernaut buff! Yes, you are still somewhat able to kite, assuming you are slotted the right tactic. No right tactic? Too bad.

I'm sure there will be some changes which gonna place SW in even more laughable position - like, for example, future healer rework which can make dps healers better than dps (its already somewhat true with SW and dps AM...at least for roaming).

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Faction69
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Re: For the love of god give WH a snare

Post#19 » Sun Mar 17, 2024 11:40 am

Sever1n wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:25 am So WE have pounce+snare with opening on demand. WH have armorshred that he can utilize only in 1 tree. Can WH have the mirror of that balanced skill that was added for WE with no reason and killed any chanses for some clasess like SW to kite them? Its verry funny to read those comments about shams not using speed tactic really and how its was nerfed. Try to chase 1 on WH. So u can understand the dif, wh opens on squig it jumps back wh uses oil to run to sh while it have knockback on top of knockdown/disarm/speedbuff/speedtactic/eatingpet. When WE opens on SW it imidiatly folows with her jump and aplly snare, and for some BALANCED reasons SW dont have any real panic buttons to counter that.
the jump opener has a travel time, if your target is moving it puts you where they were when you started the jump (40 feet behind them) so you can't make any use of the snare

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Re: For the love of god give WH a snare

Post#20 » Sun Mar 17, 2024 11:57 am

If you’re unable to kite on a sw then you really should practice more ( or catch kiters)
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